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- From: news@fedfil.UUCP (news)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Miscalculation
- Message-ID: <240@fedfil.UUCP>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 04:30:25 GMT
- Organization: HTE
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- Every now and again, a debate or argument gets difficult to conduct for
- reasons you somehow do not expect. For instance:
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- A: "You're a low-life, two-timing, four-flushing, dirty, rotten, lying
- SOB....."
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- B: "DAMN STRAIGHT! Not only that, but the fact that you're NOT a
- low-life, two-timing, four-flushing, dirty, rotten lying SOB tells me
- that you've got a real serious problem there!"
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- A obviously expected some sort of a denial, given the severity of the
- original charge, and is basically left speechless. Some rethinking is
- in order.
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- This is what I seem to be getting from the t.o crew on
- the topic of the manner in which the word "liar" is habitually bandied
- about on t.o.
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- [Holden]
- >Standard for talk.origins, whenever anybody should be so bold as to
- >post anything other than standard, uniformitarian, evolutionist fare, is
- >for fifty articles to appear in reply, each calling him all manner of
- >things, idiot, fool, pseudo-scientist... Most people figure once is
- >enough and move on; it is not reasonable to expect any one person to
- >reply to all fifty tormenters.
- >Should the poster be so bold as to post such an article a second time,
- >then he is a "liar" since he has been told better, BY his betters, the
- >first time. The level of callumny increases in proportion to the number
- >of such posts.
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- [ Benjamin T. Dehner Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
- btd@iastate.edu Iowa State University
- Ames, IA 50011
- ]
- > When the poster posts an article a second time without reguard to
- >any of the criticisms or errors discovered in the original post by other
- >members of t.o, then he (or she) is indeed a liar because the person is
- >posting material containing known errors.
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- [Stan Friesen]
- ^Yep, the definition of a liar is one who states something known to be false.
- ^When you repost verbatim material that has been shown to be incorrect you are
- ^indeed being a liar (since you have been given every opportunity to discover
- ^that what you are saying is false). To avoid this you must either correct the
- ^errors or provide acceptible evidence that your material is not in error.
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- In other words, "Either you come to your senses and recognize the
- inherent superiority of our jaded arguments, or you're a liar!"
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- I'd have figured t.o clown-force members would deny the basic claim (mine),
- since it more-or-less calls them mindless bigots. I obviously miscalculated.
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- Ted Holden
- HTE
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