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- From: russpj@microsoft.com (Russ Paul-Jones)
- Subject: Supernaturalistic Science
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.225724.19434@microsoft.com>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 22:57:24 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
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- In an earlier post I asked Phillip Johnson to provide an alternative
- to naturalistic science. As far as I can tell, he hasn't defined one
- yet. So, as a spur to discussion, I'll provide a proposal. This is
- necessarily a straw man, as I don't believe that there is viable
- supernatural science. I'm anxious to have a proponent of
- supernaturalistic science provide a more suitable definition.
-
- The basic tenet of sn science is the existence of God or gods. I'm
- not sure what the standard definition of God is, but the important
- attributes seem to be an ability to affect the observable world and
- a personality. God also created the universe, the things in it, and
- humanity, and human morality stems from this creation.
-
- You can't really understand the role of sn science without its
- relationship to naturalistic science. N science is similar to sn
- science, but n scientists don't explain natural phenomena in terms
- of God. Historically, sn science came first, as humans first
- explained many of their obervations as expressions of God's will.
- As more thought was given to problems, though, many observations
- were able to be explained by naturalistic science. For example,
- we rarely today believe that we should offer a prayer before
- refining oil into kerosene. It is, I think, fair to say that
- sn science operates in the gaps of n science, and that these gaps
- have been shrinking as n science is able to explain more
- observations.
-
- It is also interesting to note which gaps interest sn scientists
- the most. For example, I am not aware of an effort to establish
- that both the strong nuclear force and gravity are personal
- expressions of God's will. I believe that sn scientists are following
- their second tenent; they are most concerned with their
- perception of the relationship between human morality and science.
- So, where sn scientists feels that a particular gap in n science
- allows for a sn scientific theory to advance human morality, they
- are unlikely to abandon the gap easily. Human evolution and
- cosmological history seem to be the most important areas of sn
- scientific controversy today.
-
- In my opinion, the greatest weakness of sn science is that I've
- never seen any positive results from it. Most sn scientists are
- more concerned with preserving their gaps in n science than in
- promoting new understanding of phenomena. Some do, however, show
- how their understanding of sn science promotes various human
- morals. This is dangerous, in my opinion, since historically
- n science usually does override sn science when it is mature enough,
- and morals founded only on sn science may end up baseless.
-
- -Russ Paul-Jones
- russpj@microsoft.com
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