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- From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
- Subject: Survey says... PAS a myth.
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- In <nyikos.728142688@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >The following excerpts from the foreword to _Aborted Women, Silent No
- >More_ detail one of the most devastating cases of moral and psychological
- >disintegration I have ever encountered.
- >
- >I sent a copy of this foreword to Larry Margolis, who by his recent
- >posts on this subject seems to have gathered the chaff from this
- >foreword and scattered the wheat to the winds. In particular, he
- >insinuates (and indirectly claims) that NancyJo Mann's post-abortion
- >syndrome was not due to the abortion, but to other factors in her life.
-
- You skipped some important stuff. E.g.,
- ... in high school ... in my junior year, I became pregnant.
- My mother was terribly upset. "Oh, what are the neighbors going
- to say?" she worried. "You'll shame the family. You've got to
- have an abortion."
- ... My mother only wanted what she thought was best for me, but
- I *didn't* want an abortion.
-
- [skip past two failed marriages to her third pregnancy, after husband 2 walked]
-
- I was left five and a half months pregnant, with my two young
- children and no source of income. I didn't know what to do. Finally
- I took the kids and drove over to my parents house. My mother and one
- of my brothers were there. I was at a loss. "What am I going to do?
- He left!" I said. They talked to me for awhile and finally my mother
- said, "Nancy, you're never going to amount to a hill of beans. What
- man is ever going to want you with three children, let alone the two
- you already have? With all those kids, you'll probably end up on
- welfare for the rest of your life. You're never going to be anybody.
- It's obvious that you'll just have to have an abortion."
- If I wasn't upset and depressed enough already, this type of
- "practical" advice made me feel even worse. I felt totally helpless.
- I was a failure.... How could I resist when everyone was just
- trying to "do the best thing" for me? They were sincerely trying to
- help me and they were the only sources of support I had. Upset,
- depressed, tired, desperate, I took the path of least resistance.
- I adopted the attitudes of those around me. I accepted their decisions
- as my own. I simply floated along with "what had to be done."
-
- Now, let's see what the professionals have to say about this. The first
- is from an article posted by Adrienne Regard.
-
- Scientific American, April 1990:
-
- "Scientific studies on psychological responses to legal, nonrestrictive
- abortion in the United States suggest that severe negative reactions are
- infrequent in the immediate and short-term aftermath, particularly for
- first-trimester abortions. Women who are terminating pregnancies that
- are wanted, or personally meaningfull, who lack support from their part-
- ner or parents for the abortion, or who have more conflicting feelings
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- or are less sure of their decision beforehand may be at relatively higher
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- risk for negative consequences. [emphasis mine]
-
- That certainly seems to describe Nancyjo Mann
-
- "Case studies have established that some women experience severe distress
- or spychopathology after abortion and require sympathetic care. As former
- Surgeon General C. Everett Koop testified before Congress regarding
- his review of research on spychological effects of abortion, such
- responses can be overwhelming to a given individual, BUT the development
- of significant psychological problems related to abortion is "miniscule
- from a public health perspective". [emphasis Adrienne's.] ^^^^^^^^^
-
- Since the discussion is regarding the existance of a "Post-Abortion Syndrome",
- it is appropriate to point out that no matter *what* the cause of Nancyjo's
- problems, the evidence that there is no such *syndrome*.
-
- The following is a brief extract from an extremely long article which was, I
- believe, originally posted by Phil Buckland. [Emphasis mine]
-
- SOURCE:
- the American Journal of Psychiatry, Volume 148, Issue 5, May 1991.
- copyright by the American Psychiatric Association ((C) 1991)
- copied without permission.
-
- The Psychological Sequelae of Theraputic Abortion - Denied and Completed
- by Paul K.B. Dagg, M.D., Department of Psychiatry, Mount Sinai Hospital.
-
- ... Not surprisingly, women undergoing mid-trimester abortions
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- experienced more difficulty with the decision than those having first-
- trimester abortions (25), and they experienced greater ambivalence
- about the pregnancy (52). They also appeared more likely to experience
- negative reactions after the abortion (25, 30, 53), particularly if
- the late abortion required induction of labor and delivery (54).
- Adolescents who felt that they themselves made the decision to abort,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- regardless of the length of the pregnancy, without pressure from
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- parents or others, were less likely to experience negative emotions
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- after the abortion (24, 43).
-
- ... When women experience significant ambivalence about the
- decision or when the decision is not freely made, the results are
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- also more likely to be negative.
-
- Women like Nancyjo who are pressured to get an abortion they don't want are
- likely to experience negative reactions as a result of this pressure. Women
- denied abortion also show more negative reactions than do women who make
- their own decision without pressure. So perhaps those trying to stop abortion
- are planting the seeds for more Nancyjo Manns...
- --
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
-