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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.052751.10855@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 05:27:51 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.045023.6010@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes ...
- >> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
- >>>It can be argued that since a 8 1/2 month fetus doesn't _need_ to
- >>>derive sustenance directly from the mother, that it is therefore a
- >>>person.
- >>>
- >>Get your terms straight Ray. As long as it *is* a fetus, it *must*
- >>derive sustenance directly from the woman.
- >
- >Are you arguning that the only rlevent criterion for personhood is
- >whether or not said entity is or is not inside a mother? That
- >regardless of any other considerations, a fetus is not a person until
- >after it is removed from the mother?
- >
- Hardly, Ray. It was *so* clever of you to delete the portion of the
- article in which I pointed out that this is only a small part of the
- personhood issue, and an even smaller part of the whole abortion
- issue.
-
- >>Ray, it should be obvious that the feeding baby could be fed by
- >>*anybody* since there are plenty of alternatives to breastfeeding. Or
- >>is your definition of 'person' so simplistic that it only takes one
- >>factor into account? Mine certainly isn't. As for your last statement,
- >>I'll say it again. as long as it is a fetus, it must take all
- >>sustenance directly from the woman.
- >
- >Which is a largely meaningless statement. It is a tautology and as
- >such is pretty useless. A proto-human of 8.5 months gestation need
- >not take all of its sustenance from its mother. In most cases it can
- >be removed from the mother and be given sustenance by another. Does
- >the fact that it does receive sole sustenance from the mother make it
- >a non-person?
- >
- Nope, nor have I claimed that it did, despite your creative use of the
- delete function. Personhood is only a portion of the abortion issue
- (feel free to delete this again). The woman's bodily autonomy is also
- a part of it.
- >--
-
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