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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Janus IV: Questions for Marcus, flame set to low
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- References: <C0v8s1.8HI@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <1993Jan15.045631.18285@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <C0wKMM.ICA.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1993Jan17.035630.15648@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 21:25:48 GMT
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- Here I attempt a new beginning, of sorts, with Mark Cochran, of all people.
-
- In <1993Jan17.035630.15648@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
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- >In article <C0wKMM.ICA.1@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan15.045631.18285@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >>#In article <C0v8s1.8HI@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
- >>##In article <nyikos.726863128@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu
- >>##(Peter Nyikos) writes:
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- >>###Doug has a pretty cute guess, which he came up with independently of my
- >>###tongue-in-cheek guess in "(Belated) Saturnalia II: Meet Marcus Cochran,
- >>###(?)" that you are an abortionist, or at any rate someone who "sees the
- >>###damn [consent forms]" every day at an abortuary where you work.
-
- >>##I didn't realize this. I guess this may explain his extreme defensivenss and
- >>##sensitivity. At least he doesn't hide behind the "pro-choice" veil.
- >>##
- >>##- Paul
- >>#
- >>#You are all sadly (but not suprisingly) completly wrong about my
- >>#profession. However, if you're too dumb to figure it out, I have no
- >>#plans to enlighten you.
-
- Cheap shots:
-
- Given your track record in re honesty, why should I believe this denial?
- Anyway I don't *really* think you are an abortionist, but have you ever
- posted *anything* that would indicate otherwise?
-
- <shoof>
-
- [sound of flamethrower cut back to low setting]
-
- All kidding aside, I have some questions for you:
-
- Are those consent forms from freestanding abortion clinics?
-
- Have you even seen consent forms FOR ABORTION?
-
- What assurance have you that more than 1% of all abortion consent forms
- list complications of more than .1% frequency?
-
- Why is it that when our children are vaccinated, we get info about
- complications with .001% frequency, mandated by law?
-
- >>I thought that Mark told us all his profession when he started posting
- >>again. If not, he certainly dropped a lot of hints that most people
- >>of average intelligence could have used to figure it out - that may
- >>explain why neither PHoney, DODie, nor Lebow were capable of it.
- >>
- >No, I never stated 'my profession is <x>'. It should have been fairly
- >obvious, to any resonably astute person though, given the sources I've
- >cited.
-
- Cited? Sources? As in "a book, any book, on obstetrics"? Hell, *I*
- can do better than that, and I never displayed any pretentions to
- working in a medical field.
-
- > I never felt like my profession was the issue, since I was (and
- >am) able to back up statements with citations that do not rely on my
- >own expertise.
-
- As above? or are you smugly sitting on the escape clause "able to"?
-
- > The only place I'm basing anything on my own
- >experiences and expertise is in a thread that started between Steve M
- >and myself. And that thread is purely a thoretical debate about some
- >relatively obscure technical points of fetal neural development.
-
- Do you have a different source for your audacious claim of no
- intentional feticide past the 26th week, then?
-
- You cited your own experience to Matheson when mentioning a similar
- claim to him--all the abortions *you* have witnessed, if memory
- serves, involving feticide were before the 26th week. Why such a
- modest claim? Why didn't you tell him the "truth", your "truth"
- that there are no such abortions, period.
-
- Also, my memory must be playing tricks on me: wasn't the fetus
- with 3 chambers at 31 weeks? Wasn't it killed? Why did my
- 8 year old nephew survive, even though he has this 3-chamber
- syndrome?
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
-