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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: The launch window for 51% of abortions (Keith, note)
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- References: <nyikos.726617447@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1993Jan14.064750.48880@watson.ibm.com> <nyikos.727393071@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1993Jan21.041351.8371@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 21:06:21 GMT
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- In <1993Jan21.041351.8371@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
-
- >In article <nyikos.727393071@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >>In <1993Jan14.064750.48880@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- >>
- >>I do, but a bozo (I think it was Keith Cochran said my wife should get a
- >>new ob/gynecologist because ours uses weeks since LMP. Just goes to show
- >>the superficial basis on which some people make sweeping decisions.
-
- >Wasn't me. I could care less if your wife's OB uses days, weeks, seconds, or
- >fractions of a solar year.
-
- Sorry. Guess I'll have to search back over my files.
-
- >>
- >>> My statement that most of
- >>>what's aborted are embryos, not fetuses, is correct.
- >>
- >>Not clear. You are using stats from the Alan Guttmacher Institute, which
- >>has a vested PR interest in underestimating time since LMP, or whatever.
-
- >You're really big on conspiracy theories, aren't you?
-
- Maybe you are, thinking Ted Kaldis conspired with the tire iron brandishers
- when he assures me otherwise.
-
- Maybe you even think *I* conspire with homophobes, judging from your
- aggressive post in which you told me to check out the real world. I
- posted a long reply to that, and never saw you follow up, although
- Larry Margolis did, making snide remarks indicating that he has no
- idea of the relative risk of AIDS from anal intercourse vis-a-vis
- vaginal intercourse. [Free clue: there is a difference.]
-
- >>BTW which of these two figures does Keith Cochran's figure of 51%
- >>before [the end of?] the 8th week use? I know what *he* thinks it uses,
- >>but what does it really use?
-
- >That's a good question. Why don't you ask me?
-
- I think Larry answered that one: LMP. Do you agree with him?
-
- And do you agree that it is correct to say *end* of 8th week, not
- *beginning* of 8th week?
-
- And do you agree with Beth Bartley, that most clinics won't do abortions
- before the beginning of the 8th week?
-
- [Mighty small "launch window" for 51% of all 1,500,000+ abortions done
- in 1991, no? ]
-
- >>
- >>And as I said to him before, doesn't a figure of 51% sound a tad suspicious
- >>on the face of it?
-
- >Then why don't you refute it? Preferably using PRIMARY sources, if you don't
- >mind...
-
- I will content myself with your answers to the above questions, plus a
- little logic and common sense. Of course, if your answers are like your
- brother Mark's, I'll have to do all my own answering, or rely on some
- helpful pro-choicers, like Beth Bartley or Brian Kendig. Perhaps you
- would like to beat them to the punch? and set a good example for Big
- Brother Mark?
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
-