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- From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
- Subject: Re: Tones in PIE?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.114225.28870@enea.se>
- Organization: Enea Data AB
- References: <1993Jan16.185630.25871@enea.se> <1993Jan20.184737.15289@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:42:25 GMT
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- Rich Alderson (alderson@cisco.com) writes:
- >First, lets make our terminology more precise: Lithuanian, Latvian, certain
- >Slavic languages, ancient Greek, and Vedic Sanskrit are supposed to have (or
- >have had) *pitch contours*, rather than *tones* as that term is usually used.
-
- So let me ignorant layman ask: how would you describe the two
- different accents in Swedish, are they tones or pitch contours?
- Not that I'm questioning anything, I just want to be able to relate
- to something I know. From where you wrote elsewhere, I would guess
- the answer in the latter.
-
- >The final upshot of all this is that we usually reconstruct the PIE accent
- >as a pitch rise based on the Greek and Sanskrit evidence for its pitch nature.
- >In addition, the oldest Indo-European languages do not show the kinds of vowel
- >reductions we expect from a stress accent, as in the history of Germanic or
- >Latin, or the Romance languages.
-
- Again, I want something to relate to. Do I understand right that none of
- the accents in ancient Greek are the same as the one single accent as
- Romance and West-Germanic languages? (And which is one of the two
- possible in Swedish?)
-
- (Of course, I could have mailed these questions to Rich directly, but
- I figured that there might be more ignorant and interested laymen around.)
- --
- Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
-