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- From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Idiotic Japan Bashing
- Distribution: world
- Message-ID: <727688453snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au>
- References: <1993Jan21.181648.14468@oracle.us.oracle.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:40:53 GMT
- Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents
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- In article <1993Jan21.181648.14468@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp writes:
-
- > YOU CAN'T, BUT YOU WON'T ADMIT IT.
-
- Oh, that's all you are worried about? My impression was that your
- whole purpose was to flame all these whingers and moaners who are
- giving you the shits, while I have from this distance been trying to
- say, "Hey, wait, there is a little more to it worth thinking about!",
- as I do persistently with McGowen, Tobis, Taylor, et al.
-
- Blessed miracle, maybe we'll get somewhere eventually. Do you agree
- then to work with me through an agreeable vocabulary so that we are
- *both* able to proceed with a mutually intelligible discussion without
- anyone over there screaming in panic for a kill file?
-
- > > plan n an assessment of what must be done to achieve an aim;
- > > project, scheme; large-scale detailed map; diagram of a
- > > structure projected on a flat surface; detailed scale
- > > drawing -- plan (pres/part planning, p/t and p/part
- > > planned) v/t and i make a plan of or for; devise methods
- > > of doing; regulate by a central authority.
- >
- >
- > Great. Now, I think we are talking about line 1 of the definition,
- > correct?
-
- Also, "project, scheme" *and* verb forms. It depends on what specific
- context you are refering to for each case, but I am quite happy to
- step through them one after another with you.
-
- > > > >How about a little less bullshit,
- >
- > > > That's my line.
- >
- > >Please demonstrate that's the case if you expect to be believed.
- >
- > It's easy. Just read your verbiage above.
-
- Ha! We can keep firing these one liners at each other ad nauseam, but I
- am prone to criticising others for doing that so I'll not respond this
- time.
-
- > Depends on the American. GM sure as heck is. Microsoft isn't.
-
- Agreed, but there is also an entrenched counter-ideology of there as
- well, isn't there? Which probably bothers you more than GM's situation.
- >
- > Doesn't Australia have similar problems?
-
- Well, yes and no. We are not an industrial nation, but we do have the
- same sorts of ideological and cultural origins as you we yet have a
- very long way to go before they are to be resolved. Unlike China or
- Japan.
-
- > >Sorry, you have failed to demonstrate in any way that you comprehend
- > >the techniques he discusses and I thought you might benefit from reading
- > >the book. Indeed, you open your argument here by suggesting that I am
- > >the one who gets flustered!
- >
- > Once more, your point?
-
- Merely an observation, yes? To which I yet await your further response.
- If you want to toss back endless one-liners, as above I won't bother
- to pursue it further.
-
- Gil
-
-