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- From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Idiotic Japan Bashing
- Message-ID: <30587@castle.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 13:21:28 GMT
- References: <1993Jan18.205232.18605@oracle.us.oracle.com> <727434776snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> <1993Jan20.002834.27142@oracle.us.oracle.com>
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- In article <1993Jan20.002834.27142@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
-
- >For example, a 50 year hiring plan is
- >ridiculous for almost any company because you don't know what
- >functions will be automated over the next 40 years.
-
- A plan doesn't have to be set in concrete. In this case you decide
- what things are likely to be automated, what things may be automated,
- the likely consequences, etc., and make a plan which involves a number
- of options, decision points, and review points. It wouldn't surprise
- me if there were Japanese companies which had 50 year hiring plans.
- The point is that if you are right you come out ahead of the game, and
- if you are wrong you come out no worse off than the idiots who think
- the game is unplayable.
-
- My business is robotics research, and I sometimes get interviewed by
- interested companies. I always ask them about how far ahead they plan
- and budget, because some of my research is long-term. I am staggered
- by how much further ahead Japanese companies routinely plan and
- budget. The big companies often plan, in informed and carefully
- researched detail, many decades ahead, where US and UK companies will
- refuse to look more than five years ahead. The last Japanese
- businessman I spoke to said his idea of a _medium_ term company-funded
- and -staffed research programme was twenty years. He also funds long
- term research programmes, with big teams, not just a boffin in a hut.
- How long is long term? He just laughed and said "Much longer than
- twenty years! For my children's children."
-
- In the UK it is hard to even get funding in a University for the kind
- of research routinely done by Japanese companies with their own funds.
- With some notable exceptions, most UK companies don't do research;
- what they call research is short term development. They expect
- Universities to do the research for them, and hand them working
- manufacturable prototypes.
-
- And what is the West doing? Running down its education and research
- infrastructure. It is clear that the torch of the leading edge of our
- industrial civilisation has already passed over to the Far East. It's
- just going to take a decade or so before the man in the street and the
- politicians reluctantly acknowledge what can no longer be denied. And
- the Japanese will say "Western men are such good entertainers!" as we
- tout for their tourist yen.
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- Chris Malcolm cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh +44 (0)31 650 3085
- Department of Artificial Intelligence, Edinburgh University
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