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- From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy,talk.environment
- Subject: Re: Greenpeace press releases -- fact or fiction?
- Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:37:57 GMT
- Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
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- References: <1993Jan14.123709.23559@aisb.ed.ac.uk> <51861@seismo.CSS.GOV>,<Jym.25Jan1993.0304@naughty-peahen>
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- In article <Jym.25Jan1993.0304@naughty-peahen>, Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
- => I have no problems with the scientists who do the work and
- => report it in peer-reviewed journals. I do have something
- => against the radical fringe of the environmental movement (like
- => Greenpeace) that is quick to take a few snippets of scientific
- => results that might support their political stands, then turn
- => around and crucify the very scientists who report the data . . .
- =
- ==o= Can you cite any incidences of this actually happening?
- =
- ==o= I don't think that anyone, Greenpeace included, is going
- =to argue that these press releases are any substitute for
- =scientific research. Having been both a press agent and an
- =editor, I've been on both ends of many press releases. They
- =are odd beasts, hastily written in odd prose designed to be
- =all things to all people. I know of no organization whose
- =press releases don't suffer from these problems.
-
- Somehow, that's not surprising. You seem to believe that GreenHype's press
- releases, which invariable leave out key facts are reasonable. I take it
- you've never worked for a legitimate scientific organization? Most of the
- press releases I've seen from such include all the critical information, though
- some of that information may be toward the end of the press release. If a
- newspaper wants to trim the release and exclude the critical information, they
- can do so. GreenHype doesn't give them the option.
-
- ==o= Greenpeace (the organization) does a good deal of research
- =and does indeed subject it to peer review. If you have problems
- =with this research, do speak u, but don't resort to the _ad_
- =_hominem_ approach of rejecting it automatically because you
- =don't like the way another part of the organization writes its
- =press releases.
-
- Well, how about simply rejecting GreenHype's press releases, Jym. Why not do
- us a favor and instead of posting the bullshit from the press releases, post
- at least synopses of the research reports?
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