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- From: speednut@werple.apana.org.au (Mark Jose)
- Newsgroups: sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Gas Tax (was: Re: NEWS: True Costs ...)
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:40:27 +1100
- Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
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- Original Message From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
-
- >>> >If we tax gas, gas use will go down, leading to a glut and lower prices,
- >>> >so gas price at the pump will not go up by the full amount of the tax.
- >>> >(supply and demand is fun, ain't it?)
- >
- >Yes it it. Are you familiar with pricing and demand/supply functions
- >in conditions of Monopoly, Oligopoly, and the actions of Cartels?
- >Your naive supply/demand presumption is completely worthless.
-
- Yes, perhaps advocates of such a tax should look to real examples,
- rather than theoretical demand = supply economics. Want a real example,
- then perhaps these people should look at countries with such a tax and
- see how it really works.
-
- >Yes, very basic. So basic in fact that it no longer captures the
- >realities of the the world. The price of gasoline at the pump has
- >ranged from $.70 to $1.40 /gallon over the last year or two. I have
- >seen no dramatic change in consumption of gasoline during that time.
-
- Well you can expect to pay around AUS$3.24 per gallon of petrol here.
- If we took off taxes, we would expect to pay aorund AUS$1.12 - not bad
- hey?
-
- Consider then, that it has done NOTHING to stem the usage of the motor
- vehicle, and that less and less of the money collected actually goes
- towards fixing roads etc, and you see what a great benefit such a tax
- is for us. We can hardly contain ourselves, we are so happy!
-
- >>Exactly why I propose an income tax reduction, indexed so that income ranges
- >>paying the most in gas tax have the largest reduction.
- >
- >Oh God, not another complication of the income tax. Have you never done
- >your own income tax? Have you no idea what feeding a hungry bear does?
-
- Have to agree Michael, after all how would these people put such a
- system into place? Would everybody have to keep log books? I hear your
- tax dept (IRS?) is pretty mean over there, so can you expect, while
- driving home, to at any moment be surrounded by a dozen tax men
- demanding to see your log book?
-
-