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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
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- Subject: Re: True Costs of French
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- Date: 23 Jan 93 02:29:13 GMT
- References: <1993Jan19.215714.9617@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <1993Jan20.224300.22821@sybus.com> <22JAN93.09072878@cc4.crl.aecl.ca>
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- In article <22JAN93.09072878@cc4.crl.aecl.ca> camerond@cc4.crl.aecl.ca writes:
- >The French policy towards fast breeders was quite appropriate at the time
- >it was conceived, and it is rather unthoughtful to call it a fiasco using
- >tha benefit of hindsight. If all industrialized countries had pushed nuclear
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- Lovins argued that the French nuclear effort was an economic failure
- in 1977. Events seem to have proven him correct. This is not hindsight.
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- >with the same vigour and general success as the French, their move towards
- >fast breeders would have been seen as far-sighted and correct.
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- On what grounds do you call the French program a success? According to Tino,
- according to EdF itself, they have had an operating profit for the last
- year or two. What's the debt load? How much direct subsidy went into
- building these plants? How reliable are the plants? What's the rate of
- increas/decrease of plant construction cost over the last two decades?
- The French program was based on A) the technical promise of cheap energy
- via a nuclear fission cycle, and B) a forecast of increasing energy use and
- increasing oil costs. Both claims have been disputed for at the
- last twenty years, and the critics seem to have been more accurate at
- prediction than the annointed planners of the Almighty French State.
-
- >
- >It is true that the SuperPheonix has had some technical problems, but it is
- >not obvious that they could not be overcome in that reactor or successors,
- >if there were still the same drive and commitment to the concept.
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- But, after expenditure of X billions of dollars, France had no working
- breeder reactors and an apparently unsolvable series of technical
- problems at SuperPheonix. Sure, it was not obvious that these problems
- could not be fixed, but it was also not obvious that they could be
- fixed in an economically sensible manner or at all.
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