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- From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
- Subject: Re: Inflation
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- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:18:08 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan22.040507.5588@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan21.211300.8065@athena.mit.edu> cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
- >>i really don't understand what you are trying to say here.
- >>inflation simply means an increase in prices. if the price of hammers
- >>in terms of bananas increases, then there is "price inflation"
- >>of hammers in terms of bananas. but that would only happen due to
- >>market effects. and when the number of bananas needed to buy a hammer
- >>increased, people would start making more hammers and growing fewer
- >>bananas. eventually an equilibrium, or at least a stable cycle
- >>would be reached. you wouldn't see the inflation continue endlessly.
- >>
- >>please explain the point you are trying to make here.
- >
- >A) Inflation that happens due to "market effects" is still inflation.
-
- yes. but the market then acts to correct it. how can the market correct
- for a government running the printing presses? that is an open loop.
-
- >B) You're assuming that there will be a final equilibrium. In a
- >dynamic system, there's no certainty of any final equilibrium.
-
- i said "equilibrium, or at least a stable cycle", meaning, a controlled
- oscillation akin to how a thermostat works.
-
- >C) Currency as currency has no intrinsic value; it is only valuable
- >when it is actually used. Fiat currencies have no other value;
- >commodity currencies may have some alternative valuation.
- >
- >The point is that money that is hoarded isn't terribly USEFUL; it's
- >only valuable when you actually buy something with it.
-
- true.
-
- >Is it not a truism that it is better to get $1 today than it is to get
- >$1 tomorrow? I'd rather get the buck today, REGARDLESS of any
- >inflation.
-
- well, the higher inflation is, the more you want that dollar today.
- but if you have a deflationary scenario, you would want that dollar
- later, not now.
-
- >That preference will in fact create a certain amount of
- >inflation.
- >
- >The extent to which people prefer to receive money now as opposed to
- >later will create a latent amount of inflation. It is sometimes
- >described as the "real" interest rate, and I hear that it's considered
- >to be between 3% and 6%. This might be considered a "floor" that
- >indicates some basic level of inflation.
-
- it sounds like you are confusing inflation with interest. having
- a dollar now rather than later is good because you can lend it.
- any inflation which exists erodes this, which is why inflation and
- IRs move together (roughly).
-
- --
- charles
-