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- From: radford@cs.toronto.edu (Radford Neal)
- Subject: Re: Inflation
- Message-ID: <93Jan22.120509edt.574@neuron.ai.toronto.edu>
- Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
- References: <1993Jan21.041545.286@athena.mit.edu> <2259@blue.cis.pitt.edu> <1993Jan21.211300.8065@athena.mit.edu> <2306@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 17:05:39 GMT
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- In article <2306@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:
-
- >... the point I am trying to make is that inflation would
- >occur even in a free market without government intervention (the perpetual
- >bad guy), and even without money... I am claiming that inflation would
- >occur without either the government or money, as "natural" inflation
- >will raise prices, due to the fact that if you sit on something, you waste
- >its useful value....
-
- This is an interesting argument, but I'm not sure it proves what the
- poster thinks.
-
- First of all, just as a matter of nomenclature, using the word "inflation"
- to refer to "the fact that if you sit on something, you waste its useful
- value" is so far from common usage of the term that it can only lead to
- confusion. Everyone else I know uses the word inflation to refer either
- to (a) an increase in the money supply, or (b) a general decrease in the
- amount of tangible goods or services that a unit of money can buy. The
- two are closely linked, making this ambiguity tolerable. By either of
- these definitions, the concept of "inflation" does not apply to a economy
- without money.
-
- However, though the poster refers to a situation "without money", I
- don't think he really means it. I assume that the only reason someone
- would "sit on something", wasting its useful value, is if they are
- holding on to it in anticipation of being able to exchange it for
- something that is more useful to them in the future - i.e. if the
- commodity is being used as money. For example, someone might hold on
- to gold for use as money, even if the gold could be doing something
- useful, like plugging the holes in their teeth.
-
- Such a situation is indeed undesirable, but is not a major factor now,
- nor, that I am aware of, in the past. One of the reasons gold is a good
- monetary commodity is that it really doesn't have all that many
- practical uses. Nowadays, everyone uses paper or electronic money,
- which has no virtually no natural value at all.
-
- In an economy truely without money, the concept of inflation is
- meaningless. It is, however, still possible to talk about the
- standard of living of the people, and this could certainly decrease.
- Describing this as "inflation" is not a good idea, however, since in
- an economy with money, it is perfectly possible for the standard of
- living to decrease without inflation occurring (using the common
- meaning of "inflation").
-
- Radford Neal
-