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- From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
- Newsgroups: sci.anthropology
- Subject: Cultural bias in taxonomy
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- References: <C185ML.2MC@brunel.ac.uk>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 03:13:08 GMT
- Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents
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- In article <C185ML.2MC@brunel.ac.uk> mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk writes:
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- > The theoretical constructs of scientific endeavour are models subject to
- > criticism and development. Who would have thought it. Wait till I tell
- > the scientific world this!
-
- I do wish someone would!
-
- > The point is a very old one, though. Read Plato's 'Republic' for
- > The Parable of the Cave, a good description of the likely effects of
- > trying to change someone's ideas when those ideas have surrounded them
- > from birth. This is about two and a half millenia old.
-
- Yes, appears more like it. I wonder if you would care also to cite the
- difference of opinion between Plato and his classmate Aristotle while
- you are at it, or indeed their respective departures from their old
- teacher Socrates.
-
- Or maybe you can add Buddha, or Lao Tzu, to your list.
-
- > This is the problem though. We are *all* cocooned in our biases.
- > Practically everyone today has the choice of several cultures to belong
- > to, and we tend to settle into one and go to sleep. In theory, we should
- > keep ourselves honest by reminding each other that there is more than one
- > point of view.
-
- We have been confronted with this odd idea at this end as well, yet
- proposed within the very same context in which complaints about lack
- of substantial debate have been made. Now isn't it so interesting that
- the former is commonly held by those with tenure, and the latter made
- by students?
-
- Curiouser and curiouser!
-
- > Sadly, what tends to happen all too often is that we shake our heads and
- > and say 'poor fools, they actually believe...', smugly assuring ourselves
- > that we see things so much more clearly.
-
- Oh, you forgot to mention the other problem of people with biases so
- prone to shoving them at everyone else, then complain about denial of
- rights when those others say, "What up, there is more to this than you
- suggest. How about presenting your field data, and discussing it in a
- little more depth?"
-
- It's marvellous how frequently the word "irrelevant" is heard, even
- among economists (or perhaps *especially* economists) making long-range
- forecasts (or is that planning how much of the tax dollar is to be *re-
- distributed* among us proles after all the tenured salaries have been
- taken into account) when presented with data from the social sciences.
-
- They literally say, frantically and with as much flustered annoyance as
- they can muster, "Don't worry about THAT!"
-
- > On cultural bias in modern taxonomy, this is very old wisdom. It has been
- > discussed, to my knowledge, for decades. With what would you replace it?
-
- Given the limited options you offer, my own bias of course!
-
- > BTW, I remember one interesting study was made of names for the flora
- > and fauna of Papua New Guinea. It turned out that there was very little
- > inconsistency between the local and Linnaean classifications. Can
- > anyone recall the reference, please?
-
- This was cited here recently too, and I would really like someone to
- begin a substantial discussion on the results of this "research".
-
- > You can't. Scary, isn't it? Think about that at your next anthropology
- > lecture.
-
- No you can't; that's right. You have no brains at all, and are scared
- and superstitious like the rest of us. When you grow up hopefully you
- will realise that all we can do is reside in God's divine grace, that
- your torment will cease and you will come to live in the house of the
- Lord for ever and ever, amen.
-
- > Remember that science is a cultural activity. It has to be, it's
- > performed by humans. Read anything by Steven Jay Gould on this.
- > 'The Mismeasure of Man' is a good place to start.
-
- Maybe the following would be better, since you claim to be a second
- year student;
-
- Hempel C.G. 1965
- Aspects of Scientific Explanation
- New York: The Free Press
-
- Kidder L.H. and Judd C.M. 1987
- Research Methods in Social Relations
- New York: CBS Publishing
- also
- Lumsden J. 1974
- Elementary Statistical Method
- Crawley: UWA Press
- (or similar)
-
- > I certainly think we need to dwell upon the differences between
- > similar cultures and species. Ask yourself how the differences
- > can be accounted for and you are well on the way to new insights.
-
- "Dwell upon" appears unfortunate. Perhaps "Consider in a discipline
- and consistent way" would be more appropriate.
-
- > >Where should one go to find culturally un-biased accounts?
- >
- > No human has ever written a culturally unbiased account of anything.
- > That includes anthropologists.
-
- Yet we try to join others in discussion, and by doing so explore and
- compare the extent of our biases that a reasonable reliability and
- validity to our work might be established.
-
- Gil
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-