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- From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
- Subject: Re: CD vs. LP again
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.011653.14437@spang.Camosun.BC.CA>
- Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
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- References: <1993Jan26.191547.5316@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:16:53 GMT
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- tom@afthree.as.arizona.edu (Thomas J. Trebisky) writes:
- : kurts@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Kurt Strain) writes:
- :
- : > ... That's why people spend upwards of $25K for a turntable system,
- :
- : Are there actually people who spend this kind of money for a TURNTABLE ??!!
- : What have they been smoking?? Get with it man, haul those LP's and that
- : turntable to the dump! I'm sorry, anyone who spends this kind of cash
- : on a total system even, has lost all credibility with me, that's for sure.
- :
- : I got rid of my turntable and all my LP's years ago and no regrets from
- : me. I can start fresh and build a music collection with superior
- : technology.
-
- Well bully for you. The answer is, obviously, yes there *are* people
- who spend 25K on a turntable - if there weren't the makers would very
- quickly go out of business. I didn't spend that much, but recently
- spent $1.5K (CDN) getting my LP12 Linngo'ed - and worth every penny.
-
- Leaving aside issues of sound quality, there are several reasons for
- sticking with vinyl:
- 1) Those of us with sizable - in my case `2500 LPs -
- collections, simply can't afford to junk it all and convert
- to CD.
- 2) I have many things on vinyl which have yet to appear on CD.
- When (if) they *do* appear, they may be badly transferred
- by overenthusiastic engineers, and end up sounding *worse*
- than the original.
- 3) there is a large volume of second-hand vinyl in the stores,
- sold by idiots who decided to junk it and switch to CD.
- Much of this vinyl is otherwise unavailable (see above).
-
- : Are these people actually serious about advocating LP's over CD's ?
-
- Obviously.
-
- : Do I need to clean the wax out of my ears?
-
- Maybe just your brain.....
-
- : They want the scratches and
- : pops, the needle reaming their records smooth on every playing.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- Evidently your experience is with a 2nd/3rd rate turntable/arm/cartridge.
- If that is indeed what your system was doing to your LPs no wonder you
- didn't like the sound.
-
- [....]
-
- : I can't think of any reason to prefer LP's to CD's, except that some
- : music has not been properly remastered for CD's and is available in a
- : good LP -- or is not available at all on CD. I think the LP heads are
- : just hoplessly biased by shelf-fulls of LP's they don't want to admit
- : are obsolete. I have done my time with LP's and CD's both, the choice
- : is clear to me.
-
- Hopeless? - no. Biased? - no, just realistic. Obsolete? - no,
- otherwise how would it be possible to get an improived sound by
- upgrading my turntable's *power supply* for god's sake? Or the arm or
- cartridge.
-
- Have you ever listened to a truly first-raate turntable? Thought not.
-
- It's true that a mid-fi CD player is porbably cheaper, certainly more
- available, and more likely to impress than a similar level turntable.
- And even a cheap CD player is going to convert people who have only
- experience of cheapo turntables.
-
- BUT.... put a high-end turntable against a high-end CD player and you
- find 2 things:
- 1) the sound advaantage is *not* the way you expect it.
- 2) high-end CD players are also bloody expensive.
-
- --
- Real: Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.
- Email: (dbarker@spang.camosun.bc.ca)
- Phone: +1 604 370 4452
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