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- From: cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk (C.M. Hicks)
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: D to A
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.103304.15172@eng.cam.ac.uk>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 10:33:04 GMT
- References: <1993Jan20.215947.17658@schbbs.mot.com>
- Sender: cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk (C.M. Hicks)
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- bstdenis@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Brian St. Denis) writes:
-
- >Some sales guy selling up to $7000 CD players said that the good ones
- >spin at more exactly correct rates. I guess he means his would have
- >less "wow" and flutter.
-
- It is quite possible that different CD players run at slightly different
- rates, due to inaccuracies in the master timing clock. This will, however
- lead to a constant speed/pitch error, not wow or flutter, which are varying
- speed errors. The tolerances on crystals are so small, I doubt that anyone
- would notice in normal use.
-
- >But, doesn't a CD work synchronously? Doesn't the chip set read bits
- >serially off the disk and at specific regular times pass the value of
- >the current 16 bits to the D to A converter? Isn't it true that, as long
- >as all of the bits are read in by the next 1/44.1k seconds, that it doesn't
- >matter if the disk spins a little faster or slower?
-
- This is basically true - the really critical point is clock jitter at the
- DAC clock pin - see other posts for lots of flames, and a few good points :-)
-
- >Someone please tell me that a CD doesn't read 16 bits (not counting parity,
- >time or track info) and then send the data to the converter regardless of how
- >much time has passed since the last data was sent. I mean, if the disk stopped
- >after, say, bit 14, would there be no analog signal coming out of the player
- >until it got to its next 2 bits?? ( <-- sarcasm) If this was true, you
- >could use your finger for pitch on a CD (if you could touch the spinning disk)
-
- The data on the disc is very jumbled up - the 16 bits for a particular sample
- are spread over a significant length of track to help the error correction.
- Additionally, if the player detects a duff sample it will interpolate. This
- way, gaps in the sound are kept to a minimum. A good player will still play
- a disc that has a 2mm wide saw cut from the centre to the edge...!
-
- Touching the disc puts the disc rotation out of sync with the master clock and
- the sound stops. The way vary-speed is done on some pro CD players is to
- adjust the frequency of the master clock. This way the disc, digital
- electronics and DAC all run at a slightly different frequency. Variations of
- +/- 10% are easily possible this way.
-
- Christopher Hicks
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- Christopher Hicks | If it doesn't fit...
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