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- From: Scott.Johnson@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM ( Scott Johnson)
- Newsgroups: misc.kids
- Subject: Re: Learning Sign Language
- Message-ID: <SCOTT.JOHNSON.93Jan26140055@talon.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 14:00:55 GMT
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- In-reply-to: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com's message of 26 Jan 93 15:20:22 GMT
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- >>>>> On 26 Jan 93 15:20:22 GMT, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) said:
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- N> In article <1993Jan25.182541.21825@voodoo.ca.boeing.com> howie@yo.ca.boeing.com (howie) writes:
- >Our two girls have memorized the sign language alphabet from a library book
- >and are interested in learning more.
-
- N> Wonderful! The more people who know sign language, in my opinion the
- N> better. Many word signs are made using the sign for the first letter of
- N> the word with another gesture, so learning the manual alphabet is a
- N> great place to start! Learning the numbers from 1-10 would be a good
- N> second step. Then they can learn signs for days of the week, months,
- N> and simple noun words like boy, girl, man, woman; then how to vary
- N> them to make sister, cousin, grandfather, etc.
- >
- >Is there a standard vocabulary of signs for words?
-
- N> American Sign Language is most commonly used in the USA. A good bookstore
- N> or library should have a section, and there are a few very good books
- N> geared toward hearing children who want to sign. There are also some
- N> rather comprehensive books available for adults.
-
- Also, you may want to discuss with people the pros and cons of SEE
- (Signed Exact English) vs. ASL (American Sign Language). SEE is
- *generally* easier for reading age hearing kids to learn because the
- know the alphabet and the English language already, and it is basically
- just using signs for English words and English word order. ASL is a
- "natural" language and is not based on English really at all (expect for
- the fact that it has existed in the US and as new words etc. develop,
- new signs may develop along with them). ASL is actually more closely
- related to French Sign Language in word order etc. than it is to
- English. Basically there are a lot of people on both sides of the
- argument on which is better to learn and to use. ASL is a "natural"
- language, where as SEE was developed artificially to try to help the
- HI/Deaf student in an English speaking culture.
-
- I leave it as a task to the reader to form their own opinions as this is
- a very highly debated topic. Myself, well, I took 2 years of ASL, but
- unfortunately they weren't the best courses. So over time I end up
- using a pidgin of the 2 (basically ASL signs with English word order.
- Gets me understood in most circumstances).
-
- >
- >Anybody know of good sources for teaching kids (ages 8 and 10) this sort
- >of thing?
-
- N> It's best to learn signs from another person so you can see the
- N> movements instead of a flat drawing. Some colleges and YMCAs offer evening
- N> or summer courses for all ages.
-
- N> Good luck! I got interested in signing when my own hearing started to
- N> deteriorate but it won't be completely gone for awhile yet.
-
- Completely agreed that it is best to learn sign from another person.
- You might also want to see if local colleges have any clubs as they are
- good sources of information as well. I have also heard that there is a
- program called "Deaf Mosaic" that is open captioned on Saturday mornings
- on the Discovery channel. I have never seen it, so I have no idea how
- well this show might appeal to children, but you may want to check it
- out if you have cable.
-
- Most importantly, take a class with someone (for your 2 kids this should
- be good). Learning in the class is generally very easy. What is hard
- is remembering it, and if you don't have someone you can communicate
- with in this new language, you will forget parts of it (I do speak from
- experience here). I'd recommend that you take a class with or at the
- same time as your kids if you have the time/interest/money, etc. Really
- gives you a whole new perspective on things when you go out in public
- after being a hearing person all your life and try to use only sign
- language.
-
- Good luck and it's great fun to learn!
-
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- -Scott
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