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- From: mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers
- Subject: Re: Auto insurance laws in different states --
- Message-ID: <mjc.727728428@NL.CS.CMU.EDU>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 18:47:08 GMT
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- >>A complete driving history? Shouldn't drivers who have injured cyclists
- >>and pedestrians with their cars pay more? (I think they should be behind bars
- >>but that's another subject.)
-
- >There's no way I can let this go. While I myself am a cyclist and am
- >annoyed by the attitude by the average motorist toward cyclists (as
- >well as motorcyclists), I have seen (several times) accidents that
- >were definitely *caused* by a bicyclist. I don't feel one bit sorry
- >for them, in fact, I feel bad for the drivers in the cars who are now
- >most likely to get higher insurance rates for the mistake of the
- >cyclist.
-
- Hear, hear.
-
- In September of 1990 I hit a pedestrian at an intersection. I had a green
- light; she had a red light and a "don't walk" sign. She did not look for
- traffic before running into the street; she admitted this to the police.
- I swerved (nearly colliding with another car) but hit her anyway; she only
- gave me about 10 feet in which to react (at 20mph).
-
- She was 15 at the time -- old enough to know better but young enough to
- be legally not responsible for her actions. (In other words, I couldn't
- sure her and she didn't have any relevant insurance.)
-
- I reported the accident to my insurance company immediately. I later found
- out that the damage was approximately equal to my deductible, so I did not
- actually receive any money from my insurance company. They refused to go
- after my deductible because there was no other insurance company they could
- nail. (This was State Farm. Avoid them.) The only thing they did right
- was to decline to pay the pedestrian's medical expenses. (She had health
- insurance anyway.)
-
- Nevertheless, that accident has been screwing up my rates for the last 2.5
- years and will probably do so for another 1.5 or more. (Around here they
- usually ask for accidents within 3.5 years, not 3 -- and one company I called
- asked for my record for the last 5 years.) I have no recourse. Between
- the higher rates and the repairs from the accident, I'm out at least $1000.
-
- Oh by the way, I've had many near-misses with law-breaking cyclists (and
- happily shared the road with law-abiding ones), and I was once hit by a
- law-breaking cyclist. This pedestrian was not a fluke.
-
- Yes, there are bad and irresponsible drivers out there; I am neither. There
- are sane and reasonable cyclists and pedestrians; this one was not. To
- categorically state that drivers are automatically responsible and should
- pay for these accidents, as the original poster and State Farm did, is
- ludicrous.
-
- Monica
-