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- From: ewv@craycos.com (Eric Varsanyi)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers
- Subject: Stores can't "detain" shoplifters
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.193035.11391@craycos.com>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 19:30:35 GMT
- References: <C0wH3C.66I.2@cs.cmu.edu> <1jlsp6INNhc@shelley.u.washington.edu> <1_k3+rp@rpi.edu>
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- In article <1_k3+rp@rpi.edu> wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin) writes:
- >restitution. In fact, they might detain me in the office and not allow
- >me to leave. They then might make me sign an admission that I was a
- >thief, on the threat of laying a criminal charge.
-
- Actually, my girlfriend works at a Target and when she started they had
- a security briefing. No one (not even the security guys at the store)
- can 'detain' anyone from leaving, or use any other type of physical
- force on them. If someone is observed shoplifting the manager (or
- security types) can go over and say anything they want (I'm sure they
- make up some good stuff to convince the person that they must stay in
- the store, sign a release, etc...) but if the person walks out the
- front door they can't stop him/her, if anyone tries the legal fees and
- damages possible far outweigh whatever the value of the item they might
- be able to carry off.
-
- >Then they might bring
- >a civil suit against me for $100 damages.
-
- Wouldn't they need to know your name first? Given that they can't keep
- you there they would probably have a tough time filing suit. It would
- be a bad idea to show your face around there again (IMHO).
-
- I'm not advocating shoplifting, people should just know that (especially
- if someone doesn't know your name) threats made by manager types at
- various establishments (especially physical theats) are just excess verbiage.
- If they sound authorative and make nasty threats most people will go
- along. Remeber though: don't try this at home, shoplifting is still a crime
- and if they do get your license plate number or call the cops into the
- store you are in deep doo-doo.
-
- -Eric
-