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- From: bryan@notorious.rs.itd.umich.edu (Bryan Beecher)
- Newsgroups: mi.misc,mi.news
- Subject: Re: MI.ORG
- Date: 26 Jan 1993 15:29:15 GMT
- Organization: U of Michigan ITD Research Systems
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- Edward Vielmetti writes:
- >
- >For my own part I would rather see the University of Michigan spend
- >its attention on other public works projects and get out of the
- >free UUCP feeds business, especially in the parts of the state
- >where there are commercial providers and other free providers ready
- >to go at the task. Now that ITD has a big bill to pay back to the
- >US Gov't for overcharging for MTS, it hardly makes any sense to me
- >why they are giving away a service that's either a valuable service
- >(in which case they should charge for it) or a worthless service
- >(in which case they should stop doing it).
-
- Well, U-M is a big place, and IMHO it has enough attention for many, many
- projects simultaneously. In all honesty the marginal costs for what we
- do in the UUCP biz is very low. This is due to a couple of factors:
-
- o We have eliminated about 80% of the UUCP-based news feeds we
- were giving out. This means that the machine used for this
- service does a lot less compressing and batching.
-
- o We don't poll anyone. So we don't have any phone bills to
- pay.
-
- o We don't really provide any kind of "customer support." If you
- don't know what you're doing, and your stuff backs up on our
- machine, we'll cut you off. We can't spend time handling this
- kind of stuff.
-
- The costs then are the marginal cost of doing some UUCP-based news and
- allowing other sites to dial-in to get a tiny amount of mail. Staff time
- is only involved when setting up an account or eliminating one, and either
- one of these involves very little time. Since Wes does most of this, he's
- the one to give the authoritative word.
-
- To my mind we provide a different service than a place like MSEN. You want
- reliability, go to MSEN. You want customer support, go to MSEN. You want
- prompt action, go to MSEN. We are no-frills, but I think the service we
- do provide is decent enough that it is still valuable.
-
- We have gone around and around in circles on charging for this service.
- The current thinking seems to be that the costs involved in the accounting
- and billing would outweigh the costs in providing the service, and so
- it isn't practicable.
-
- This is just my take on the issue; the view from the trenches, and should
- not be taken as having come from anyone who actually gets to make decisions
- or set policy or anything like that.
- --
- Bryan Beecher, U-M Information Technology Division (+1 313 747 4050)
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