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- From: rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF])
- Subject: Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted)
- Message-ID: <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca>
- Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo
- References: <1993Jan22.144813.7927@cdf.toronto.edu> <4078@isgtec.isgtec.com> <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:36:25 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >2. Animals are sentient. They care whether they live or die.
-
- Is that true? I know many animals fear and avoid pain,
- but are any actually aware of or in fear of death itself?
-
-
- > To kill
- > them is to go against their wishes. Killing non-human animals is wrong
- > for the same reasons that killing human animals is wrong.
-
- Does this apply to all animals? I think Einstein said something like
- "I gave up gardening after I realized I was cutting worms in two."
-
- So, do you refuse to eat any vegetables that might have been grown
- in soil that might contain worms? If so you must be a big supporter
- of hydroponics and other chemical-intensive gardening methods.
-
-
- We all have some image of a hierarchy of life, and we all choose
- to draw the line somewhere. Above it we don't consider killing and
- below it we allow killing for our own preservation or pleasure.
-
- You choose to draw the line a little lower than most people.
- But where the line is drawn isn't an absolute handed down from
- the heavens (or if it is, most of us don't know it). You can
- get pleasure knowing you have chosen more wisely than the rest
- of us, but don't be smug in that knowlege. There are people that
- have chosen even more strictly than you have. If we are wrong in
- your eyes, then you are wrong in theirs using exactly the same
- reasoning and logic. And if they were to accuse you of being a
- cruel person for making the choice where you did, I don't think
- that would be an effective way of convincing you to make a different
- choice.
-