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- From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
- Subject: Re: Killing animals (was Re: hunting dog wanted)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.193010.13137@csi.uottawa.ca>
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- References: <4078@isgtec.isgtec.com> <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:30:10 GMT
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- In article <C1F7Kq.Lxr@math.uwaterloo.ca> rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan25.142223.20600@cdf.toronto.edu> g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes:
- >>2. Animals are sentient. They care whether they live or die.
- >
- >Is that true? I know many animals fear and avoid pain,
- >but are any actually aware of or in fear of death itself?
- >
- >
- >> To kill
- >> them is to go against their wishes. Killing non-human animals is wrong
- >> for the same reasons that killing human animals is wrong.
- >
- >Does this apply to all animals? I think Einstein said something like
- >"I gave up gardening after I realized I was cutting worms in two."
-
- Worms aren't, strictly speaking, animals. (I don't recall offhand
- which phylum worms are in - my last bio. course was in grade 9, which
- was, whew, a LONG time ago! Early '80s, for sure!)
-
- I'm not trying to be TOO picky - I'm sure that Rosemary discriminates
- between phylae too.
-
- >So, do you refuse to eat any vegetables that might have been grown
- >in soil that might contain worms? If so you must be a big supporter
- >of hydroponics and other chemical-intensive gardening methods.
- >
- >We all have some image of a hierarchy of life, and we all choose
- >to draw the line somewhere. Above it we don't consider killing and
- >below it we allow killing for our own preservation or pleasure.
- >
- >You choose to draw the line a little lower than most people.
-
- However, Rosemary seems to draw the line HIGHER than the insects. Or
- is it immoral to kill insects, Rosemary? How about spiders?
- Arachnae? Does this have any implications for certain types of
- "sea-food" that are from the same phylae as critters that are
- conventionally called "bugs?"
-
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