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- From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
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- Subject: Re: Speaking of 1/4 mile performance...
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 16:16:43 GMT
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- > From butler@comm.mot.com Tue Jan 26 10:15:56 1993
- > > That covers all ratios available for GM 12 bolt carriers.
-
- Which are presently legal on dragsters per NHRA rules. However they are
- not the only governing body for drag racing.
-
- > Thanks for the info on the tires. I've always wondered what
- > tires where used and what they cost. With 3-5 runs/tire that's a
- > hefty amount of $$$ left as rubber on the track.
- >
- > You say 12 runs/engine. What has to be done then when
- > they're expired? What can you use over?
-
- Well not necessarly expired but if the engine held together that long
- it probably well over due time to tear it apart and closely inspect
- it for damage, metal fractures, and weak spots. Its a lot better to do
- it this way than find out on the strip when you get eliminated because
- some bolt broke form fatigue.
-
- >
- > Anyway, back the original concept of engine revolutions per run, I
- > submit this.
- >
- > If the max the engine can turn is 10000RPM, then the *greatest* number
- > of revolutions possible from green to finish is
- >
- > 10000RPM * 1min/60s * 4.5s/run = 750 eng_revs/run
-
- lets use a modest 5.0 sec and then call it 835 rpms.
- >
- > and there ain't nothin' anyone can do about it unless they make the
- > engine turn faster or make the ET longer!
-
- Yes some engines turn more rpm's than that. If you notice most blown dragster
- engines occur in the first 2 sec. when tire slippage is at its peak and
- rpm's sometimes go crazey often hitting 14K + which can rip through the
- engine pretty badly.
-
- >
- >
- > Taking another tack and using your tire rotation example (the 38" tire)
- > I get the total number of axle_revs per quarter mile to be (slippage ignored)
- >
- > 5280'/mi * .25mi/run * 1axle_rev/9.94' = 132 axle_revs/run.
- > Using a rear end with 2.73 gears gives the total engine revs as
- > 2.73eng_revs/axle_rev * 132 axle_revs/run = 362 engine_revs/run
-
- let's use the 3.23 axle its more popular especially with NHRA events.
- which gives us closser to 428 rpm's.
- >
- >
- > Now, clearly my initial estimate of 750 engine_revs/run (above) is high
- > because I assumed that the engine was running at "redline" the entire time,
- > which I do not believe to be the case. The estimate given immediately above
- > using the tire rotation (362 engine_revs/run) is somewhere near a lower bound
- > since with tire slippage this number has to increase. As such, my the
- > estimate from my original posting of 750 engine_revs/run is actually
- > close to an upper bound, based on the data you gave me, with the total
- > number of engine_revs/run being somewhere between 362 and 750.
-
- Actually when you consider tire slippage almost continius through the 1/4 mile
- as well as clutch slippage you probably closser to the 835 revolutions
- than the lower figuers. Actually some one should set up a pulse counter
- on a run to give you some accurate numbers on this.
-
- > And of
- > course, the number of cylinder firings is somewhere less than
- > 750engine_revs/run * 4pops/engine_rev = 3000 pops/run
-
- it could hit as high as 3,350.
-
- > How much fuel do you use per run?
-
-
- Well I'm not sure on the consumption rate in a dragster. My experience
- is mainly in the SuperStock and Modified Production classes. The fuel
- is costly enough here around $3.00 per gallon after adding octane
- boosters etc. My guess is a dragster uses at least 1 gallon per run and
- with the cost of nitro at least $20.00 per run. A couple years back one
- of the nitro fuel dragsters was pitted next to me and through
- conversation with the owner he claimed the the prior year he took his
- total expenses and divided into the number of runs the car took and
- averaged just under $2,000.00 per run. He claimed that as the car gets
- older this sum comes down as there is a great initial investment.
- However he didn't ever expect it to get near a cheap $1,000.00 per run.
- No I ain't got that much money but if someone wanted to sponsor me I'm
- all ears.
-
- > dennis
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- Posted by: hotrod@dixie.com
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