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- From: williams@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Tom Williams)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Response to the Response to the Flood FAQ
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 19:15:12 GMT
- Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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- >> Wayne Folta
- >>(This reminds me of the Mt. St. Helens video that Gish and company have.
- >>It shows a valley with a little stream running through it. The valley's
- >>walls show millions of fine layers of deposits. Three hundred years from
- >>now, people might assume that the layers had been deposited over millions
- >>of years and that the stream had taken hundreds of thousands of years to
- >>carve out the valley. In fact, the deposits occured in three days, and the
- >>valley was blown out by a huge steam/mud flood in half a day.)
-
- I had to underscore Mr. McRae's response here.
-
- I find creationist arguments like this so ridiculous as to be generally not
- worth responding to. To say that geologists might mistake an ash flow for
- a deep water marine or lacustrine condensed section representing millions of
- years is absurd. It's like saying that zoologists might mistake crickets for
- birds because they both make chirping sounds.
-
- These two rock types are dissimilar in every way except that they have layers.
- Their chemical composition, texture, mineralogy, setting, fossil content,
- etc. are entirely different.
-
- As long as you only pay as much attention to rocks as a landscape painter
- might, then of course you can create a flood story. If you start to pay
- attention to them, the story falls apart. It's no wonder that creationists
- have had such a difficult time recruiting ANY geologists to their numbers.
- Not that geologists generally spend any time refuting them, the point seems
- so absurd as to be moot.
-
- It's also a testament to the general public's poor understanding of the
- landscape that surrounds them that creationist stories are as widely accepted
- as they are.
-
- >>And how about the Colorado Plateau (Whitcomb & Morris, pg. 160), which
- >>occupies 250,000 square miles, and which has been uplifted multiple times
- >>(this believed because of disconformities in the stratigraphic sequences)
- >>and yet is nearly perfectly flat? This causes a problem for non-Flood
- >>geologies.
-
- The points raised here were DEFINED by 'non-Flood' geology. How in the
- world could this be used as a creationist argument?? Why should this
- create a problem for scientific geology??
- --
- Tom Williams williams@pangea.stanford.edu
- Department of Geology
- Stanford University School of Earth Sciences
-