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- From: mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon)
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Cosmos without Gravitation
- Summary: ambiguity in the statement
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.221618.17273@panix.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 22:16:18 GMT
- References: <1992Dec29.143703.7029@hsr.no> <1992Dec29.164826.5044@linus.mitre.org> <1hq1ueINNhev@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
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- In article <1hq1ueINNhev@hpscit.sc.hp.com> dave@ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec29.164826.5044@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec29.143703.7029@hsr.no> onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam) writes:
- ...
-
- >>}>13. would not have been able to obtain
- >>}>spherical form, especially those which do not rotate,
- >>}>as Mercury or the moon (with respect to its primary)
-
- >>}That is simply not true. The moon is rotating ...
-
- >>wobbles, not rotate. If it rotated, 100% would (eventually)
- >>become visable. It doesn't.
-
- >I believe you are incorrect on this one, Jim. The moon MUST be rotating,
-
- There is a difficulty in interpreting the original statement -- namely,
- what are you taking as the moon's "primary?" Indeed the moon "wobbles"
- (libration, it's called) with respect to the earth, and there is no
- earthrise on the moon corresponding to moonrise on the earth. However,
- there is a sunrise/sunset and a real rotation of the moon on its axis
- (against absolute space :-)) Similarly, a planet "locked" with one
- face towards the sun is (as one of the widgeted citations above notes)
- is of course rotating once as it revolves around the sun.
-
- Moreover, it is NOT particularly mandatory to have a gaseous or liquid
- body in rotation to develop a spherical shape -- all that is needed is
- some sufficient degree of deformability under gravitational forces. It
- is the symmetry of the FORCE field which constrains that deformation
- into a "figure of rotation." (obviously, a fluid *will* conform to that
- constraint more readily than rock does :-))
- >and indeed, it's period is about 28 days. Otherwise, how could it orbit
- >the earth once every 28 days and keep the same face oriented at the
- >earth's surface? Think about it.
- >
- >As for the "earthrise", well, that is simply wrong. What this person
- >must be referring to are some of the pictures that have been taken close
- >to the earth-relative horizon on the moon, which gives us a neat image
- >of the earth "rising" over the horizon.
- >--
- >Dave Waller
- >Hewlett-Packard Co.
- >Workstation Systems Division
- >Sunnyvale Channel Partner Consulting
-
-
- --
- Michael L. Siemon "We honour founders of these starving cities
- mls@panix.com Whose honour is the image of our sorrow ...
- They built by rivers and at night the water
- Running past the windows comforted their sorrow."
-