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- From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
- Subject: Re: TIME cover story
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- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:40:58 GMT
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- In article <1hlcnmINNkrb@agate.berkeley.edu> philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
- > Last week's TIME magazine cover story (Dec. 28) was titled
- >"What Does Science Tell Us About God?". The story (by Robert
- >Wright) began by saying that "if you're religious in a
- >conventional sense, you probably don't seek theological guidance
- >from physicists." Many people, however, are "religiously
- >inclined, but reaching for scientific support" for their beliefs.
- >
- > Some of the world's most prominent scientists seem to
- >encourage this public attitude of looking to science to provide a
- >basis for religion. For example, Leon Lederman is publishing a
- >book called "The God Particle," and the cosmo-theologies of
- >Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan has been seen or read by millions.
- >Moreover, TIME said that "many, perhaps most, evolutionary
- >biologists" now believe that "the coming of highly intelligent
- >life was close to inevitable," because of a supposed inherent
- >tendency of evolution to favor "behavioral flexibility," which
- >demands "complex information processing - smarts." This is in
- >line with a general physical law waiting to be discovered which
- >"would carve out local exceptions to the general tendency of
- >things to become more chaotic." TIME quotes Charles Bennett as
- >saying that such a law would play a role "formerly assigned to
- >God." TIME adds that others "would say that such a law is
- >EVIDENCE of God -- not a God who created human beings out of
- >dust, but a God with longer time horizons."
- >
- > When the U.S. National Academy of Sciences faced the threat
- >of creation-science in 1981, it passed a resolution saying that
- >"Religion and science are separate and mutually exclusive realms
- >of human thought whose presentation in the same context leads to
- >misunderstanding of both scientific theory and religious belief."
- >
- > My questions are: (1) Was this resolution merely a stick to
- >beat the creationists with, or does it apply to the National
- >Academy's own members? (2) Should we "seek theological guidance
- >from physicists (or biologists)?" We seem to be getting a lot of
- >it lately.
-
- When physicists and biologists speak of things outside their area of
- expertise, we don't have any more reason to believe them than we would
- to believe someone else. (And if you're like Ted, you don't even
- believe them when they *do* speak about their areas of expertise! But
- that's a whole other kettle of worms. . .)
-
- Since scientists study the natural, I don't see how they could do much
- to study things that defined to transcend nature. That's why
- "scientific creationism" is an oxymoron; you end up positing "God did
- it" as an explanation for natural events, which is an explanation that
- explains nothing.
-
- SD
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