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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Subject: Re: Clarifying "Restrictions"
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.014554.9607@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 01:45:54 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan2.224341.9574@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan02.035011.4843@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>In <1993Jan1.001959.29643@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>>In article <1992Dec30.200825.22596@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>>>In <1992Dec30.050611.25734@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>>>>Would "limited pro-concensus" be sufficiently descriptive, you think?
- >>>>
- >>>>"Sufficiently vague" is more like it.
- >>>
- >>>Superficial, Larry. Very superficial.
- >>
- >>That too. :-)
- >>
- >>>>I think "arguing for legislation while claiming he doesn't want it"
- >>>>is the most descriptive I've seen yet.
- >>>
- >>>I don't argue for abortion restrictions. I argue only against certain
- >>>absolutist positions. Learn the difference.
- >>
- >>What's the difference?
- >
- >The difference is that I dislike absolutes, whether they are pro-choice
- >absolutes, or pro-life absolutes. Furthermore, I _care_ about the
- >pro-choice position more than I do the pro-life position: if a pro-lifer
- >starts spouting absolutes, I generally just chuckle, sit back, and watch
- >him or her self-immolate, but when a misguided pro-CHOICER starts spouting
- >absolutes, my instinctive reaction is to quickly douse the spark before it
- >does any real damage.
- >
- With the end result being that you do indeed argue in favor of
- restrictions on late term abortions Kevin. Just admit it Kevin.
- There's nothing inherently *wrong* with your position, other then the
- fact that you won't admit that your position is, in reality that early
- abortions are Ok with you, while you favor late term restrictions.
- Arguing in favor of late term restrictions, while denying that you are
- doing so is an awful lot like DODie. Please don't put yourself in a
- category with him. One is enough.
-
- >>It *sounds* the same as someone arguing for them.
- >
- >Then don't just "listen", Larry -- try actually READING what I'm saying.
- >Carefully. If you do, I think you'll find that I argue against absolutes, and
- >certain kinds of just plain old illogic, but _not_ inherently _against_ any
- >(more-or-less relativistic) position on pro-choice.
- >
- >"Pro-choice Quality Control" is another way to describe the way I see what I
- >do, Larry. Maybe that's a little too whimsical, though, perhaps even bordering
- >on presumptuous...
- >
- It's way past the border Kevin.
-
- --
- Mark Cochran merlin@eddie.ee.vt.edu
- These are the views of my employer. They also represent the views of
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