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- From: psl@nrl.navy.mil (Paul Lebow)
- Subject: Re: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- References: <1992Dec30.111143.29938@hemlock.cray.com> <1992Dec30.192012.7684@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1992Dec30.161156.9317@hemlock.cray.com> <1992Dec31.022404.23240@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:11:11 GMT
- Lines: 62
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- In article <1992Dec31.022404.23240@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec30.161156.9317@hemlock.cray.com> mon@cray.com (Muriel
- Nelson) writes:
- > >In article <1992Dec30.192012.7684@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- > >>In article <1992Dec30.111143.29938@hemlock.cray.com>, mon@cray.com
- (Muriel Nelson) writes:
- > >>|> In article <C01L6s.11v@ra.nrl.navy.mil> psl@nrl.navy.mil (Paul
- Lebow) writes:
- >
- > >>|> >You are a bitter person Muriel.
-
- Oh, I see, "misogynist twit" is just pillow-talk
- >
- > Sorry Paul. We women in this group are used to being called bitter.
- > Say what you mean. What you mean is Muriel doesn't agree with you and
- > doesn't know her place.
-
- Oh, I see again. As a man, I can't speak for a woman, but as a woman...no
- problem!
- >
- > >>Do you believe that a male does not have a right to hold an opinion
- > >>on this issue? I have encountered such women before, and constructive
- > >>debate was ended before it began. I will assume otherwise.
- >
- > When men get pregnant, then they have a right to make their own decisions
- > about whether or not they wish to continue a pregnancy. They have no
- > business telling the rest of us how to live.
-
- Gee, I don't see you telling Mr. Kaflowitz, or others of his persuasion, to
- mind their own business.
-
- >
- > >>Why do you think Paul does not sympathize with the women who are in
- > >>these straits? I admit I do not know Paul, but to assume that anti-
- > >>abortionists do not see the evil of illegal abortions is improper.
- >
- > The fact that permitting ten thousand women a year to die is seen by
- > Paul as a desirable outcome suggests to me that the young man is totally
- > unable to see the position of the pregnant woman.
-
- Please give the reference on this supposed statement of mine.
-
- >
- > >>legal abortions are performed each year (millions) than deaths of
- > >>women in back-alley illegal abortions (thousands perhaps?) years
- > >>ago. An anti-abortionist is making the agonizing decision between
- > >>millions of deaths and thousands of deaths. There is no good
- > >>choice, only the lesser of two evils.
- >
- > Thank you for making it clear that the life of a three day old z/e/f is
- > held to be of greater or equal weight than a full grown woman. It is
- probably
- > beyond your comprehension, but this is part of the reason that I find it
- > hard to believe that Paul sees the pregnant woman at all. The boy has
- > X-ray vision, only.
-
- Because if you didn't dehumanize me (as you do the unborn) it would be much
- more difficult for you to be so bombastic.
-
- - Paul
-