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- From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
- Subject: Re: Slavery Analogy
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.204754.27025@wdl.loral.com>
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- Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less
- References: <1992Dec28.213933.3984@csrd.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:47:54 GMT
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- skinner@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (Gregg Skinner) writes:
- # I ended my last post with the observation:
- #
- # But those of us (myself included) who would leave the abortion
- # choice to individuals must ask ourselves whether we would also
- # leave the choice to keep slaves to the individual. If our answer
- # differs, we must be able to clearly explain why. Arguing "slaves
- # are people" will not do, for it is probable that not everyone
- # agrees.
- #
- # I expected some folks would post their clear explanations.
- # Unfortunately, only one reply that has appeared so far has done so.
- #
- [ Criticisms of other responses deleted for brevity. ]
- #
- # J H Woodyatt notes that almost all slave holders considered their
- # slaves property, while many women do not consider fetuses property.
- # Again, this does not counter the above observation.
-
- It attacked the analogy of slavery with abortion, as I clearly said
- was my intention.
-
- Furthermore, it seems you are being somewhat equivocal about your use
- of the word `some.'
-
- # He also would have us believe most abortion abolitionists do not
- # consider the fetus a person. I am skeptical, but open to statistical
- # evidence to the contrary. The evidence provided is quite poor:
- #
- # >Evidence of this is that only a small minority wish to
- # >abolish abortion even in cases of rape and grave threat to the
- # >mother's health.
- #
- # Someone who would allow abortion in the case of rape or grave threat
- # to the mother's health may still consider the fetus a person.
-
- And there are people who think that there is a worldwide conspiracy
- that secretly controls world currency markets to exert political
- control over the citizens of the world.
-
- Look. I want to speak with this legion of abortion abolitionists who
- think fetuses are persons but still think it's okay to abort them if
- their conception was a result of rape. Where the hell are they?
- They're my favorite kind of screwheads to play with and there's such a
- small number of them that when you get one it's a real red-letter day.
-
-
- --
- +---------------------------+ ``Man has not a single right which is
- | J H Woodyatt | the product of anything but might.''
- | bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | -- Mark Twain
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