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- From: hsims@vax.clarku.edu
- Subject: RE: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- Date: 29 DEC 92 17:06:35 GMT
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- In a previous article, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) wrote:
- >hsims@vax.clarku.edu writes:
- >
- >>>2. the child's entire existence is in the balance.
- >
- >>The woman's existance is in the balance too.
- >
- >Precisely. Therefore an arbitrator is required.
-
- Does the arbitrator have to be the government? Women rarely make the decision
- to abort totally on their own. Physicians and other medical personel are
- consulted, husband/boyfriends/family members/etc. are also consulted.
- Religious women may also consult their priest/minister/rabbi.
-
- >>A physician who is interested only in fees would be much better off
- >>encouraging childbirth. They make much more money delivering babies than
- >>they do aborting fetuses.
- >
- >I don't know how abortions are supervised in your
- >area (Virginia?), but here in B.C. there are people
- >who demand community clinics independent of hospitals
- >to provide for "women's health."
- >They would not supervise births or any form of natal
- >care other than abortions.
- >What are these clinics likely to recommend to
- >a pregnant woman appearing at their door?
-
- Unless these clinics are forcing unwilling women to have abortions, why does
- this really matter? The bottom line is that it is the woman's decision. But
- just out of curiousity, are all these clinics for-profit organizations?
-
- >>Do you know of any way to give rights to a fetus without taking away rights
- >>from the pregnant woman?
- >
- >The mother, father, and child each have *rights* and
- >*responsibilities*.
-
- I'm not sure about Canada, but in the U.S. fetuses do not have rights. What
- responsibilities do you think fetuses have?
-
- >Someone needs to independently judge that all parties
- >are fulfilling their obligations to the best of their
- >abilities.
-
- Do you feel that women in general have an obligation to carry pregnancies to
- term? If so, why?
-
- >A IDLER
-
- .... Heather.
-