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- From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
- Subject: Re: Was <insert-your-name-here> dropped during childbirth?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.174329.25082@wdl.loral.com>
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- Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less
- References: <1992Dec24.175612.5110@ncsu.edu> <34634@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <1992Dec26.191257.5575@ncsu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:43:29 GMT
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- dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- # smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias) writes:
- # >dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes to
- # ><1992Dec24.170437.15166@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com(>>):
- #
- # >>> When are you going to answer my question about why you refuse to take
- # >>> a position on legislation
- #
- # >> How many times do I have to repeat myself? I am undecided.
- # >> Try reading those three words slowly. Hopefully it will sink in.
- #
- # > Didn't [Mr. Holtsinger] just post his opposition to FOCA?
- #
- # Allow me to explain something to you. When people on talk.abortion
- # discuss ``legislation'', they are usually talking about legislation
- # to restrict abortion. Most people understand that. Obviously you
- # don't.
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- I missed about 200 articles over the Xmas holiday, so I didn't see Mr.
- Holtsinger's response. However, from what Mr. Mezias quoted I can see
- Mr. Holtsinger must have blinked when he should have read the word
- `why' in my question.
-
- I already know about his claims to being undecided on legislation that
- might restrict a woman's right to obtain an abortion. I think that
- might be a deception, and I've posted my reasons on multiple
- occassions in the past here. I'm not asking for positions I know he
- will say he doesn't have.
-
- I haven't hounded him mercilessly about *what* his positions regarding
- anti-abortion-rights legislation are since, through concerted action,
- a few of us here were able to extract from him the ridiculous claim
- that he's `undecided' -- since then, I have been demanding an
- explanation for *why* he is still undecided, when his rhetoric is
- clearly saturated with anti-abortion-rights sentiment.
-
- He has taken a position on *one* (1) legislative bill -- FOCA. He has
- also said repeatedly that he thinks the Supreme Court decided poorly
- in Roe vs. Wade, and that he thinks the right to an abortion should
- not be a U.S. Constitutional right, while allowing that States should
- be empowered to recognize that right.
-
- (Please correct me if I have misunderstood you or your position has
- evolved, Mr. Holtsinger -- I do not mean to put words in your mouth on
- those occasions when you are willing to speak for yourself.)
-
- What I want him to answer, and I have been repeatedly asking him in
- various forms is:
-
- 1. Why are you undecided on every pending piece of
- legislation that might restrict women's abortion rights,
- yet you can find a way to decide about FOCA?
-
- 2. If Roe vs. Wade was so bad, how would you like to see the
- Supreme Court act to change the status quo?
-
- Mr. Holtsinger has been determined to leave these questions
- unanswered. While others have been less charitable, I have waited
- until now to decide that he's a despicable liar on the basis of his
- brazenly absurd equivocation on this matter.
-
- I've been waiting way too long. My patience has wasted on him.
-
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- +---------------------------+ ``Man has not a single right which is
- | J H Woodyatt | the product of anything but might.''
- | bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | -- Mark Twain
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