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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Clarifying "Restrictions"
- Message-ID: <1992Dec25.044506.4750@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Dec18.165413.8758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1992Dec19.081855.14741@rotag.mi.org> <1992Dec23.052045.701@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:45:06 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.052045.701@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec19.081855.14741@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec18.165413.8758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >>>
- >>>Kebbin is just mad because we live in the Real World (tm) and not in
- >>>some Darcian fantasy in which it is more dangerous to terminate a
- >>>pregnancy then to carry the fetus to term.
- >>
- >>Learn the difference between a hypothetical question and a fantasy, ignoramus.
- >>
- >I'm game... Lets hear you explain the difference between a fantasy and
- >a hypothetical situation which has NO basis or cantact with the real
- >world.
-
- If you owned 5 unicorns, and I stole 2 of them, how many unicorns would you
- have left?
-
- By your "reasoning", the answer would be "0. Unicorns don't exist." The CORRECT
- answer is, of course, "3. The laws of mathematics don't depend on whether
- unicorns exist or not". So, unicorns are fantasy, but the laws of mathematics,
- although abstract, DO exist "in the real world", and your answer is wrong in
- the unicorn example. Unicorns may be fantasy, but the laws of mathematics don't
- suddenly change just because unicorns are incorporated into a hypothetical
- question about mathematics.
-
- Similarly, your answer to my hypothetical late-term abortion question is as
- WRONG as (5 unicorns - 2 unicorns = 0 unicorns), since the morality of an
- approach to the abortion issue is NOT dependent on whether a certain class of
- medical cases exists or not.
-
- >>>Considering his tendancy to
- >>>argue both sides of any given question, I'd say he is the one who
- >>>needs to be concerned with moral inconsistancy.
- >>
- >>Arguing a position and believing it aren't necessarily the same thing, schmuck.
- >>
- >And this is the same guy who recently posted about "how
- >counterproductive all this ad hominen garbage is"...
-
- Yes. Which was why I corrected your inaccurate and misleading ad hominem above.
-
- - Kevin
-