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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Pro-choicers must condone infanticide
- Message-ID: <1992Dec25.042418.4549@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Dec15.180606.27847@cbnews.cb.att.com> <1992Dec22.174359.23172@ncsu.edu> <1992Dec23.103815.21024@hemlock.cray.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:24:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.103815.21024@hemlock.cray.com> mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.174359.23172@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec15.180606.27847@cbnews.cb.att.com>
- >>jap@cbnews.cb.att.com (james.a.parker) writes:
- >>
- >>> I argue for pro-choice on the basis that the mother is under no obligation
- >>> to provide support to the child. This is independent of the question of
- >>> personhood.
- >>
- >>During most abortions, the child's right to bodily autonomy is
- >>violated. If the child is a person, then you cannot support
- >>unrestricted abortion-on-demand using the notion of bodily
- >>autonomy.
-
- Yes, the fetus'es (not "child"s) right to bodily autonomy is violated, but the
- violation of the fetus is a LESSER violation, in terms of human suffering,
- than the alternative 9-month violation of the pregnant woman. So, where we
- HAVE to choose between the two, i.e. before the point of viability, it is
- valid to choose violation of the fetus'es BA.
-
- >Gee, Doug. When are we going to see some evidence
- >from you that a fetus is _capable_ of bodily autonomy?
-
- Does it need to fill out a form, or what?
-
- No, Muriel, any human organism which _could_ function outside of the womb
- is by definition "capable" of bodily autonomy. This is, in fact, why
- viability is such an all-important dividing line.
-
- - Kevin
-