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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: MEET GEORGE TILLER, LATE-TERM ABORTIONIST Part Two
- Message-ID: <nyikos.725158602@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- Keywords: abortion, digoxin, laminaria, pro-death
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <nyikos.724627328@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1095@blue.cis.pitt.edu> <1992Dec23.024128.9180@ncsu.edu>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 00:56:42 GMT
- Lines: 77
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- In <1992Dec23.024128.9180@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
-
- >In article <1095@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
- >sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
- >>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
-
- >> [lots of PHoney's bullshit deleted]
-
- >The "bullshit" that you have deleted is information quoted
- >directly from an advertisement in the abortion clinic where
- >Dr. Tiller works. Still think it's "bullshit", Ms. Garvin? ;-)
-
- >Here Ms. Garvin deletes the following key sentences, where
- >Mr. Nyikos talks about the fee schedule:
-
- >>> The cold light of reality begins with the fee schedule. Sixteen to 22
- >>> weeks, $750; 22 to 26 weeks, $1800. Beyond 26 weeks, $2200.
-
- >Notice that Mr. Nyikos acknowledges that the information
- >on the fee schedule was not obtained from Dr. Tiller:
-
- >>> This
- >>> information is missing from the brochure, and I am relying for it on
- >>> _Pro Life Answers to Pro Choice Arguments_, by Randy Alcorn, Multnomah
- >>> Press, 1992. Information current as of May 1991, courtesy of Ann Tilson
- >>> writing in _Kansans for Life_.
-
- >> Really - why bother with original sources when you can use
- >> pro-lie propaganda instead?
-
- Well, I was going to post all this, but then I decided it was largely
- irrelevant since it does not deal with the digoxin abortions:
-
- " But back to Tiller. I have a copy of one of his fee schedules, which
- again is broken down in such a way that one cannot tell much about the
- critical 24-26 week period:
-
- ONE-DAY First Trimester (6-12 weeks)........................$275.00
- TWO-DAY First Trimester (6-12 weeks)........................$325.00
- SONOGRAM.................................................... $75.00
- TWILIGHT SLEEP..............................................$575.00
- Second trimester D&E (13-14 weeks)..........................$325.00
- (15-18 weeks)..........................$575.00
- (19-21 weeks)..........................$775.00
-
- All two day procedures
-
- (22-23 weeks)...........................$975.00
-
- All 2-3 day procedures
- (After individual evaluation)
-
- Second Trimester [sic] Installation (22 weeks and over)
- Information and Fee schedule available on request.
-
- I *do* try to go to original sources, but I don't like paying for long
- distance calls, nor availing myself of toll-free numbers like Susan
- does. (Even though Tiller, unlike Wysong, can easily afford it.)
-
- >Notice how Ms. Garvin deletes a few key sentences above
- >to make it appear as though all of Mr. Nyikos' information
- >was obtained from pro-life sources. In fact, much of the
- >information was obtained using Dr. Tiller's advertisements
- >and using quotes of Dr. Tiller.
-
- >Really Ms. Garvin, I had expected better from you. Normally
- >you're pretty good at misrepresenting other peoples' posts.
-
- Yeah, some examples will be given later on in the "Mendacity of
- Susan Garvin" series. This example was so trivial, I did not
- even feel like following up to her original post. But thanks,
- Doug, for pointing these things out.
-
- Peter Nyikos
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