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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Birth Positions, brief Christmas message
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <1992Dec16.161728.17801@zooid.guild.org> <1992Dec22.194155.10971@noao.edu>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 00:24:19 GMT
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- In <1992Dec22.194155.10971@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
-
- >From article by Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>:
- >>
- >>regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes...
-
- >>AR> PS, yes, I also had a quite carring and supporting and wonderful helpmate
- >>AR> during my second delivery. But not even he, who rubbed my back ceaselessly
- >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>AR> for 6 hours, would claim to have carried anywhere near the 'same' burden.
- >> ^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- >>Hmmm...? You delivered while on all fours? (It would seem this way, if your
- >>husband had to rub your *back* while you were in labour, unless it was the case
- >>that you switched back and went onto your back after he rubbed your back)
-
- Will, my wife never got into delivery position before she was at
- least 8 cm dilated. In her first delivery, I rubbed her back with her in
- all sorts of positions. What seemed to work best, though, was to move
- a warm-water-filled rolling pin up and down her back when she was lying on
- her left side. [Yep, even the detail of it being her *left* side is
- vividly etched in my memory.]
-
- >>This isn's a flame, just a question - Why???
-
- Take it easy, Will, these questions usually have logical answers if
- you'll just wait for them. One ? is ample.
-
- About Adrienne, it appears from what she wrote in a recent post that this
- helpmate is no longer with her, or else it was not the man who fathered
- her second child. I would not want any woman to
- be in her place, having to raise two children along with everything
- else she does. Adrienne has expressed bitterness about a lot of things,
- and here's my sincere wish for a happy holiday season for her and
- everyone else.
-
- A more extensive Christmas message will have to wait until Saturday.
- My wife is very understanding about all this networking I am doing,
- but I really shouldn't impose on her patience any longer. Especially
- with Christmas eve tomorrow, and us not having even trimmed the tree
- yet. Lots of midnight oil to be burned this week.
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
- PS. I will have lots to say about the following quote soon. Clue:
- Trumped-up Charge #8 agains Suzanne reads in part, "There is no such
- species as man." Note the absence of the word and its derivatives
- in the excerpt from the
- new non-sexist version of a certain song below:
-
- QUOTE OF THE WEEK
-
- Hail the heaven-born Prince of Peace, hail the Sun of Righteousness!
- Light and Life to all He brings, risen with healing on his wings!
- Mild he lays his glory by, born that we no more may die,
- Born to raise us from the earth, born to give us Second Birth
-
- Hark, the herald angels sing! Glory to the newborn king!
-
-