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- From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
- Subject: Re: Liberty (was something relevant about CO-2 long ago...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.185313.19414@netcom.com>
- Organization: People's Front of Judea
- References: <1992Dec19.212201.5955@tc.cornell.edu> <BzM8Fq.97F@austin.ibm.com> <1992Dec21.164230.17150@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:53:13 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.164230.17150@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
- >In article <BzM8Fq.97F@austin.ibm.com> alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
- >>
- >>Do you believe that applying sound marketing principles to
- >>getting your ideas actually ADOPTED by lots of people is a
- >>nitwit idea? If so, then you must enjoy talking *INSIDE*
- >>your safe-space.
- >
- >Do you have any idea what marketing is? It is polite, it is
- >rude, it is nice, it is mean, it is communication, it is
- >miscommunication, it is above all getting people to pay attention.
-
- If I may quote from today's Miss Manners column:
-
- Miss Manners has seen many a person won over to a good cause
- through polite appeals to reason or compassion, under
- conditions ranging from drawing-room discussion to picketing.
-
- But she has never yet heard of anyone who was under rude attack
- killing the instinct for self-defense and saying: "Wait a
- minute--I believe you have a point there. It's a good thing you
- yelled and threw paint at me because it made me realize that
- you are right and I was wrong. I appreciate your calling this
- to my attention."
-
- But then, Miss Manners is a conservative (or, in motss parlance,
- "fascist").
- --
- Andrew Solovay
- "I know that, in America and under capitalism,
- I am the freest woman in history."
- --- Camille Paglia
-