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- From: biow@cs.umd.edu (Christopher Biow)
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- Subject: Re: Crucifixion of Jesus?
- Summary: where's the Greek?
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 15:31:52 GMT
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- In article <21DEC199223563848@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:
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- >I haven't done a systematic study, but I have compared the wording
- >of some passages with a Greek interlinear translation and identified
- >word-for-word copying. (I don't presently own such a translation and
- >so can't give any examples, but you can get a good idea by looking
- >at a harmonization of the gospels and comparing the English translations
- >of parallel accounts. Look, for example, at the account of the
- >paralytic lowered through the roof of a house and healed by Jesus
- >in Mark 2:1-12 and Luke 5:18-26 (also Matthew 9:2-8). The wording
- >is not identical, but there are many of the same words used, and
- >the sentence-by-sentence pattern is the same.)
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- Okay, here's the Greek, pasted over from Parsons Technology's
- QuickVerse for Windows. I haven't the skill with Greek to see
- all that much copying here. Maybe I don't know what I'm
- doing. Still, these verses would seem not to imply more than a
- common tradition (written or verbal).
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- Minor words are replaced by periods.
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- Mark 2:1 .palin.eiserchomai eis kapernaoum dia.hemera
- ...akouo.....oikos
- Mark 2:2 .eutheos polus.sunago sunago hoste...medos
- choreo.choreo...mede mede.sullaleo.thura..laleo.logos..
- Mark 2:3 ..erchomai..phero.paralutikos..paralutikos..
- airo.tessares
- Mark 2:4 ...dunamai.proseggizo.....ochlos.apostegazo.stege
- hopou......exorusso...chalao chalao.krabbatos epi hos.
- paralutikos..paralutikos katakeimai
- Mark 2:5 .iesous eido.pistis.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos
- teknon.hamartia.aphiemi.
- Mark 2:6 ...tis..grammateus kathemai ekei.dialogizomai..kardia
- Mark 2:7 tis.houtos.houto laleo blasphemia tis dunamai
- aphiemi hamartia.theos heis
- Mark 2:8 .eutheos.iesous epiginosko..pneuma..houto
- dialogizomaien heautou.epo..tis dialogizomai.tauta..humon
- kardia
- Mark 2:9 tis..eukopoteros.epo..paralutikos..paralutikos.
- hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.airo..krabbatos.peripateo
- Mark 2:10 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.
- aphiemi hamartia.lego..paralutikos..paralutikos
- Mark 2:11 .lego..egeiro.airo..krabbatos.hupago..eis sou oikos
- Mark 2:12 .eutheos.egeiro airo..krabbatos.exerchomai
- exerchomai enantion.pas hoste...pas existemi.doxazo theos
- lego.oudepote eido..houto houtos
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- Luke 5:18 .idou aner phero..kline.anthropos
- hos....paraluo..zeteo..eisphero....tithemi.enopion.
- Luke 5:19 .....heurisko.poios...eisphero..dia..ochlos.
- anabaino..doma.kathiemi.kathiemi dia.keramos..klinidion
- eis.mesos emprosthen iesous
- Luke 5:20 ...eido.pistis.epo..anthropos.hamartia.aphiemi.
- Luke 5:21 ..grammateus..pharisaios archomai.dialogizomai
- lego tis.houtos hos laleo blasphemia tis dunamai aphiemi
- hamartia.theos monos
- Luke 5:22 ..iesous epiginosko.dialogismos.apokrinomai epo
- ..tis dialogizomai..humon kardia
- Luke 5:23 tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo
- egeiro..peripateo
- Luke 5:24 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia.ge.aphiemi
- hamartia.epo..paralutikos..paraluo.lego..egeiro.airo..
- klinidion.poreuomai eis sou oikos
- Luke 5:25 .parachrema.anistemi.enopion..airo..epi hos.
- katakeimai.aperchomai...oikos doxazo theos
- Luke 5:26 ...hapas ekstasis lambano..doxazo theos..pletho.
- phobos lego..eido paradoxos..semeron
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- Mat 9:2 .idou.prosphero....paralutikos..paralutikos ballo
- epi.kline.iesous eido.pistis rheo..paralutikos..paralutikos
- teleioo...tharseo.hamartia.aphiemi.
- Mat 9:3 .idou tis..grammateus rheo en heautou houtos.blasphemeo
- Mat 9:4 .iesous eido.enthumesis rheo hina tis enthumeomai.
- poneros.humon kardia
- Mat 9:5 .tis.eukopoteros.epo.hamartia.aphiemi.e.epo egeiro.
- peripateo
- Mat 9:6 ....eido..huios.anthropos echo exousia epi ge.aphiemi
- hamartia tote lego...paralutikos..paralutikos egeiro airo..
- kline.hupago.sou oikos
- Mat 9:7 ..egeiro.aperchomai..oikos
- Mat 9:8 ...ochlos eido..thaumazo.doxazo theos ho.didomi
- toioutos exousia.anthropos
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