home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Xref: sparky sci.philosophy.tech:4665 sci.logic:2518
- Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic
- Path: sparky!uunet!pmafire!mica.inel.gov!guinness!opal.idbsu.edu!holmes
- From: holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: No Reification Here
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.171138.18363@guinness.idbsu.edu>
- Sender: usenet@guinness.idbsu.edu (Usenet News mail)
- Nntp-Posting-Host: opal
- Organization: Boise State University
- References: <1992Dec30.183153.2819@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1hteqjINN85h@tamsun.tamu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:11:38 GMT
- Lines: 34
-
- In article <1hteqjINN85h@tamsun.tamu.edu> cmenzel@kbssun1.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) writes:
- >holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >: First-order logic does not commit one to abstract objects at all.
- >
- >Seems hasty, Randall. Don't you think the semantics for first-order
- >logic (or better perhaps, a first-order language) commits you to
- >(among other things) the semantic entities that interpret the
- >constants and predicates of the language? If so, then you're at least
- >committed to sets or classes or, for friends of the forms, properties
- >and relations as the meanings of predicates.
- >
- >--Chris Menzel
- > Philosophy Department
- > Texas A&M University
-
- First-order logic doesn't commit one to the semantics for first-order
- logic, either. The semantics for first-order logic certainly does
- involve some set theory.
-
- Personally, I am committed to set theory, and so to semantics for
- _some_ interpretations of first-order logic (all consistent theories
- have countable models, after all). But the intended interpretation of
- Cantorian set theory _cannot_ have semantics in the sense indicated.
- Its domain of discourse is _not_ a set, and most of its predicates are
- _not_ sets or relations (all are "too large"). This is not specific
- to Cantorian set theory; the same holds for the set theories derived
- from NF. If one tries to get around this by using proper classes,
- super-classes, and so forth, one still has the same problem at a
- higher level (the theory of the classes, super-classes, and so forth).
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
-