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- From: russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence)
- Subject: Re: Calcium/Magnesium
- Message-ID: <C02C9A.CCt@wpg.com>
- Organization: WP Group
- References: <1992Dec30.054649.19891@spdcc.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:15:08 GMT
- Lines: 49
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- From article <1992Dec30.054649.19891@spdcc.com>, by dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer):
- > In article <altar.725683440@sfu.ca> altar@beaufort.sfu.ca (Ted Wayn Altar) writes:
- >>It seems to be yours as you don't bother to cite your references
- >>but simply burden the reader to take your word for it.
- >
- > That's because everything I've said is part of the general literature.
- > There's nothing esoteric here; read any reference on vitamin, calcium
- > and steroid metabolism. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
- > references; common knowledge does not. As I've said before, it isn't
- > my job to tutor your out of your base ignorance; ignorance seemingly
- > sufficient to make any claim, however dumb, to sound plausible, especially
- > if it's repeated to you by someone who sounds authoritative.
- >
- >>Nor have you provided any discursive or factual evidence for your unseemly
- >>name-calling of Professor Moon as a "crank".
- >
- > Moon's opinion of vitamin D supplementation is decidedly out of the
- > mainstream, and his evidence for supplementation's deleterious effects,
- > such as it is, is presently very tenuous. No one with any critical
- > faculties would accept his comments at face value.
-
- This sounds familiar. Several weeks ago you stated that the
- claim made by Ornish, Breslau, Marsh, Johnson, Allen (and many
- others) concerning the impact of protein intake on calcium
- excretion was "controversial at best"... thereby implying that
- "mainstream" opinion was on your side (as usual). For some
- strange reason, however, you failed to present any evidence to
- support your side of the argument.
-
- I won't bother to ask you again for your references, but I wonder if
- you'd mind telling us how the "mainstream" opinion against Moon's
- "crank" hypothesis stacks up against the "mainstream" opinion against
- the aforementioned "crank" hypothesis set forth by Ornish et al?
-
- > ...
- >>Ok, so you've had a 20 year interest in pharmacology, but I take
- >>it that you don't actually have any degree of any kind in
- >>pharmacology? Is that right?
-
- > No degree. Three courses at Harvard Medical School, which I took out
- > of my own interest. So what?
-
- Thanks for your honesty. I'm beginning to understand why you
- typically make a point of labeling your critics pejoratively
- as "ankle biters" while portraying your own position as "mainstream".
-
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