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- From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: objective environment? (was Save the Planet)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan03.181812.2818@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 18:18:12 GMT
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- In article <726035709snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
- >These are highly relevant and important contemporary questions, if you
- >would seek to do them some justice. I have plenty of literature here
- >at hand to sustain a discussion.
-
- I only understand the basic issues involved with taxonomy and I don't have
- access to relevant literature but I'll try to do your questions/claims
- justice. I've paraphrased them in [].
-
- [ Only museum curators can understand Linnaean classification ]
-
- Nonsense. For example, Edward Wilson's "Diversity of Life" contains a
- nice explanation which requires no technical background.
-
- [ Linnaean classification is not useful to laypersons ]
-
- Laypeople are presumably far more interested in the fruits of biologists'
- labour rather than how they accomplish them. Nonetheless its incorrect to say
- laypeople can not use Linnaean classifications. For example, my mum, a keen
- gardener, talks about plant genera and families and their characteristics.
-
- [ Taxonomists might place pigs and whales in the one taxon which would be
- irrelevant to pig farmers and people who have never seen whales ]
-
- Yes, the high level taxa that pigs are placed in are likely irrelevant to these
- people (whether whales are placed in the same taxa or not). This is a problem?
-
- [ Taxonomists make classifications on the basis of dead specimens ]
-
- For taxonomic decisions based on fundamental anatomic characters, dead
- specimens are presumably sufficient. In many other cases, observations of
- of live specimens are unavailable. I know behaviour is often used for low-level
- taxonomic decisions in some groups. DNA-analysis is now providing a wealth of
- information for taxonomic decisions.
-
- [ Linnaean classification obstructs analysis of ecosystems containing people ]
-
- As far I can see, it facilitates study of all ecosystems.
-
- [ Biologists pickle human heads in jars and won't give them back. ]
-
- I thought it was ethnologists and anthropologists that did this.
-
- [ Biologists disrupt traditional beliefs and hence cause ecological catastrophe
- and juvenile delinquency ]
-
- Biologists no doubt commit many sins, I expect this one is rare (and
- irrelevant to taxonomy).
-
- Andrew Taylor
-