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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Nuclear Power and Climate Change
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- Date: 3 Jan 93 15:06:08 GMT
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- In article <63tr1p-@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- >yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
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- >>In article <51736@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
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- >>>Why not take a chunk of vessel to a lab and see exactly what annealing
- >>>treatment will restore ductility? Then simply design new reactors with
- >>>an installed annealing system - annealing could be performed as part of
- >>>regular maintainance every few years.
- >
- >>This would not affect the projected lifespan of current reactors, and
- >>might not provide an accurate indication of how weld points or different
- >>topologies or larger chunks of metal will behave in situ.
- >
- >Hi Rich. I don't think I've seen you in these threads before so
- >I thought I'd warn you that debating with Yackadamn is like yelling
- >at the wall. He's a classic armchair critic who gets all his energy
- >information from the Union of Concerned Scientists Book of the Month
- >Club. Us regulars over in sci.energy regard him as a sparring partner
- >who aids in keeping our debating skills sharp. You'll also note another
- >of his tricks and that is when the heat gets too high, he'll redirect
- >followups away to some more friendly group and away from the experts.
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- Hi John, the quality of your wit and information remain at their
- standard shoddy level, but I'm impressed to see you extend your
- combination of ignorance and dogmatism to the subject of internet
- news systems. FYI, Rich's note contained a followup field that is
- used by my post-news program without human intervention.
- If you'd like, I can make sure a copy of my every post gets put on
- Sci.energy for your edification. On the subject of in situ annealing,
- my information comes from NRC and UCS scientists at the public hearings
- at Yankee Rowe. Despite your repeated claims to the contrary, the
- economic and engineering advantages of this process are not at all
- settled, and the decision by Yankee Rowe management to shut down rather
- than attempt to fix the reactor vessel is an indication. The
- facts are that the NRC ordered Yankee Rowe shut down because of
- embrittlement, and neither the utility nor the NRC
- seemed interested in trying a costly and experimental repair. NRC
- scientists at the hearing told me that they were attempting to get data
- on Soviet military reactors where annealing had been tried and that
- there was no solid information available on how well the process might
- work in a US plant. In light of this, your assertions about extending
- the lifespan of nuclear plants seem as factual as many of your
- previous claims.
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