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- From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment
- Subject: Re: Sheep in Organizations
- Message-ID: <58022@dime.cs.umass.edu>
- Date: 26 Dec 92 05:00:56 GMT
- References: <1992Dec25.130508.1@acad3.alaska.edu> <58020@dime.cs.umass.edu> <1992Dec25.163305.1@acad3.alaska.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec25.163305.1@acad3.alaska.edu> nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
- >> Because many of us value the preservation of some wilderness on the
- >> north american continent, and we would like *our* public land to be used
- >> that way.
- >
- >Well many off don't care for your ideas of "public land" if you so much want
- >public land and parks, then spend some of your own money and buy land and make
-
- Sigh. We already own the land. You want to change the ownership, put up
- some money. It's really sickening how many people want to get something for
- nothing.
- >>>>
- >>>> No. I mean that National Parks are for the benefit of all americans and
- >>>> public property should not be given away.
- >>>>
- >>>Question is how did this "Public Property" come about? And why must the FED
- >>
- >> Same way that private property came about: theft.
- >>
- >
- >Okay I hope you don;t mind if I steal your private home, and land and make it a
- >park so maybe sometime my great grand children might actually visit it..
-
- If you want to claim that the Feds do not have a moral right to Alaskan
- park lands because of how they got them, you should make an effort to
- explain how privately owned land in Alaska was obtained.
-
-
- >Why must the Government take care of alot of services that can be better taken
- >care of by private organizations or by smalller governemtal organizations??
-
- Because they are not better taken care of by private organizations. Do you
- guys all read some newsletter to get these pathetic right-wing cliches? I
- mean the same phrases keep popping up over and over again.
-
- >> If you're going to claim that the founding fathers would have agreed with
- >> you, you should read some of their writings. While they were big on private
- >> property, they were also big on civic duties and public good.
- >How can you get private property when must land is locked up for
- >'preservation>.
-
- 25% of Alaskan land is privately held. That's a lot of acres. Get land
- the way the rest of us do, buy it.
-
- >> The reasons for these regulations are that before we had them we enjoyed
- >> many terrible and poorly planned roads dams and drainage projects that
- >> are now costing us lots of money to undo.
- >>
- >Well some were badly planned, but why? Question is are they bewtter planed now
- >that the FED has its finger in the stew. Nope.. There is a point where micro
- >managing goes to far..
-
- There's another one of those cliches. Try thinking for yourself.
-
- >>>As I say again, do I meddle in your politics of your state? If I don't have the
- >>>courtesy to not meddle in the polictics of my state. And that includes all
- >>>lands therein..
- >>
- >> Guess again. We all live in the same country, and our federally owned lands
- >> are not the property of just the citizens of the states where the properties
- >> are found. But, go ahead, meddle in our state politics, it's a free
- >> country.
- >
- >Okay, next time Kennedy comes up for re-election, Ill donate money for someone
- >other to be elected. Only difference between my early family and the Kennedies
-
- Great. The state economy needs all the help it can get. Maybe some of
- your friends can get involved as well. Keep those contributions coming
- in.
-
- >Maybe we need to start a new thread, this is getting rather long..
-
- Dull, too. Ok.
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- yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu
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