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- From: kenl@origami.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ken Lehner)
- Subject: Re: Clinton mediocre runner?
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- In article <1992Dec26.055916.25800@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, jcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.c.schwebel) writes:
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- |>
- |> The thing that bothered me about the original posting was the
- |> implicit assumptions and self-rightous implications.
- |>
- |> My question asked for "proof" that a "healthy" diet improves
- |> running performance.
- |> The answer above said it was "accepted" and "most people" advocate it.
- |> I'm still waiting to see the proof.
-
- (Don't ask me to cite sources, I don't have them. I'd suggest looking for
- research done by Dr. David Costill of Ball State; he's done studies
- disproving a lot of commonly-held ideas about exercise physiology, and he
- has done research on glycogen replacement).
-
- |>
- |> I would say most claims for dietary effects on running performacne
- |> are theories rather than proven facts.
- |> And plenty of theories about diet have been subsequently disproved.
- |>
-
- Two instances:
-
- Increased carbohydrate intake, especially after lengthy aerobic activity,
- increases the levels of stored glycogen, which will be used during the
- next training run. Without this, one would not be able to train
- effectively. Fact, not theory.
-
- Increased caffeine intake can result in a state of dehydration, which
- reduces the body's ability to work (thicker blood, less ability to cool
- and deliver energy to working muscles). Same for alcohol. Fact, not
- theory.
-
- |> In addition, the current theories usually relate to the relative
- |> percentages of carbohydrates, protein, and fat in the diet.
- |> Even accepting these theories, a person could eat french fries
- |> and still have an acceptable diet.
- |> No need to abstain from all fats, a certain percent is required.
-
- Every calorie ingested in the form of fat displaces in the diet (more
- than) a calorie of carbohydrate, which is used in training and in racing.
- One either consumes less carbohydrates (not good) or more total calories
- (also not good). Simple logic (correct me if I'm wrong).
-
- |>
- |> Please note, I'm not questioning the value of a good diet
- |> in improving health, just in improving running,
- |> all other things being equal.
- |> Obviously if you eat enough to gain weight you'll get a deleterious
- |> effect on your running after some point.
- |>
-
- Diets lower in fat promote weight loss, and a higher percentage of lean
- body mass will improve running. (I lost ~16 lbs over last summer, and my
- 3.5 mile time (Manufacturers Hanover races) went from 22:46 to 20:24.
- Anecdotal evidence only)
- Simple physics here: muscles have to move less mass that doesn't
- contribute to work.
-
- |> I have followed a supposingly healthier diet for more than 2 years,
- |> mainly trying to lower cholesterol and control weight:
- |> no desserts, no red-meat, very little white meat,
- |> very low fat, low salt, low caffeine, no alcohol.
- |> It hasn't improved my race times and I can't prove it
- |> improves my health, but I believe it does.
- |>
-
- How old are you? Can you say for sure that if you had not improved your
- diet that your race times might have gotten worse? Did you have blood
- tests to determine your health prior to your change of diet? Changes from
- then to now could serve as proof, assuming you believe "theories" about
- lower cholesterol, and the like...
-