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- From: Tim@f4229.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Tim)
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- Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
- Subject: Re: 4 On Fealty
- Message-ID: <725446268.F00005@ocitor.fidonet>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:14:52
- Lines: 29
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- Arval wrote, in response to Ioseph's disquisition on fealty:
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- JM> I have two major arguments with this diagram. First, it implies that all
- JM> fealty in the SCA is a function of official office and rank. That is
- JM> untrue. I can swear fealty to or take fealty from anyone I wish,
- JM> regardless of my rank or that of the other party. A peer, for
- JM> example, can swear fealty to anyone he chooses.
-
- Incorrect. You have succumbed to the misapplication of the term
- "fealty" common in the SCA. You can swear *homage* or take *homage*
- from whomever you wish; it isn't *fealty* unless a *fee* is involved,
- by definition.
-
- JM> Second, your chart implies that fealty is transitive; you made this point
- JM> explicit later:
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- JM> > In practice, a person in liege-fealty to a Peer who is in
- JM> > liege-fealty to the Crown should be considered "in fealty" to the
- JM> >Crown...
-
- JM> That is not how fealty works where I come from, and it is not a correct
- JM> characterization of medieval fealty. The vassal of my vassal is not my
- JM> vassal.
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- In this you are correct. Mirabile dictu....
-
- Tadhg, Obelisk
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- * Origin: Herald's Point * Steppes/Ansteorra * 214-699-0057 (1:124/4229)
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