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- From: jchristian@desire.wright.edu
- Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
- Subject: Re: bear hug variation
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.004616.6324@desire.wright.edu>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 00:46:16 EST
- References: <1992Dec21.201402.2852@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
- Organization: Wright State University
- Lines: 105
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- In article <1992Dec21.201402.2852@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec19.175511.6289@desire.wright.edu> jchristian@desire.wright.edu writes:
- >>Okay, I have a question.
- >>
- >
- > [description axed, etc...]
- >
- > In heat of combat, you may not even notice the sternum. I would not
- > sweat that part.
-
- Sorry, I do sweat that part. Guy comes up from behind me, surprise attack.
- Even though I KNOW he's going to apply the thumb pressure, it still hurts like
- hell and is a SERIOUS distractant.
-
- >>(3) You have about three seconds (a generous estimate) between the time the
- >>bear hug commenced and the time your head is being dropped against the ground.
- >
- > Uh... exactly HOW is your head supposed to wind up in the floor
- > when he has grabbed you whilst you were upright?
-
- Tip you sideways and let the side of your head do the talking.
-
- >>Less time if you're being thrown into a wall.
- >
- > This one could be a slight reason for concern, but you still have your
- > legs that can be used to fend off the oncoming wall.
-
- Again, let the side of your head talk to the wall.
-
- >>
- >>We've found that the best time to deal with the attack is the moment you feel
- >>it happening.
- >
- >
- > You bet.
- >
- >>It's an easy attack to pull off, and it's not too difficult to meet
- >>your goal of slamming the other's person's skull.
- >>
- > Not too difficult to get out of either. First thig to do is RELAX,
- > both physically and mentally. The physical relaxation will make
- > you a VERY hard package to carry around, bear hug style. Of course,
- > you have to know how to properly relax (which is not as easy as it
- > sounds).
-
- Only problem with relaxing is it makes it that much easier to throw your head
- right where he wants it. If you're upright, the attacker has to make
- adjustments to get your skull and the ground at the right angle. If you're so
- relaxed that your head is flopping around like a dead fish, then he whips you
- one way, whips you the other and WHAM! Your head has been whipped straight
- onto the ground (you may hear the voice of experience here). And the attacker
- isn't trying to carry you around. He's trying to surprise you from behind and
- slam your skull.
-
- >
- > Another point to consider is that the guy hugging you has put his
- > two primary weapons out of commission (fists) which is good for you.
-
- Actually, he's using those weapons rather painfully against your sternum.
-
- > In addition, he is essentially blind, since you say he has hidden
- > his face to avoid a head butt.
-
- There's not much he needs to see. He knows where you are, he knows where the
- ground is. What else does he need?
-
- > Also, the first part that will hit the
- > wall will be his hands/wrists, which will not make him feel so hot.
-
- Nope. It'll be your head, if he has any idea what he's doing.
-
- > And turning you upside down to slam you into the floor, head-first,
- > will be IMPOSSIBLE if you become like jello. Give him no help and he
- > will be shit out of luck. Now he's stuck holding onto a clumsey
- > package that could remove his face if he let's go.
-
- Nope. Discussed that above already.
-
- > Also, it should be easy to get your arms free if you are relaxed.
- > In fact, they should slip right out of his grip. Sounds crazy, but
- > it works when you relax enough. Water is hard to fight against!
-
- Sounds like it might work if you have enough time and he's throwing you around
- like shake-and-bake. We've tried total relaxation, but you simply don't have
- the time to play with here.
-
- >
- > If Joe B. A. Dick wants to carry you around all night, let him. All
- > he'll acomplish is wear himself out. Also, if he IS stupid enough
- > to charge a wall,, a leg sticking out, off center, will cause a rolling
- > motion to one side or another. You have effectively redirected the
- > momentum such that HE winds up putting himself into the wall, or the
- > surrounding furnishings/interior decoration.
- >
- > -Andy V.
- >
-
- "None of us have any time, my friend," as don Juan tells Castenada. Such is
- the case here. In this instance, relaxing does not turn you into water or
- jello to simply slip out of his grasp. It turns you into a bag of
- rice--cumbersome, but still easy enough to control. And the thumb in the
- sternum sucks pretty bad. Try it and let me know how it works.
-
- Thanks,
- Jeff
-