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- From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
- Newsgroups: rec.guns
- Subject: Re: Saved by the gun
- Message-ID: <1i752tINN741@clem.handheld.com>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 22:59:52 GMT
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- Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
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- In article <rktr+sm@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- # jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
- #
- # ## backs on the owner, he pulled what looked like a 9 mm automatic and
- # # ^^^^^
- # ## killed all 4. He appeared to know what he was doing, discharging 6
- # ## shots in a little over 3 seconds.
- #
- # #I have a problem with this, at least as presented here. If they were
- leaving,
- # #I do not personally feel deadly force was needed at the point they turned
- # #thier backs. Unless the fact that they were mexican made them fair game.
- #
- # That fact that they were robbers made them fair game, of course. They were
- # not turning to leave, not that it matters. The store owner saved
- # society the expense of trying and incarcerating the punks and probably
- # put an early end to a crime spree. Good shootin' in my book.
- #
-
- As I mentioned, further evidence showed this to not be the vigilante style
- scenario you present it as, and continue to defend it as. Your apaprent
- attitude towards law and order worry me. Yes, the system needs work, but if we
- all ignore it, we don't have a society to save. Robbers are NOT necessarily
- fair game.
-
- # ## He fell asleep after raping the woman. She got loose from her chains,
- # ## got his gun and killed him. Police say there will be no charges filed.
- # ##
- #
- # #I guess stress and shock were in play, here, but again, on the surface, she
- # #should not have shot and killed him if she apparently had the chance to
- leave.
- #
- # Of course she should have killed him. If it takes claiming stress and
- # shock to slip past the system (not necessary here but in some places,
- # apparently), so be it. The fact remains that she killed a rapist in the
- # act and again saved us the expence of jailing him and then letting
- # him out to do it again.
- #
- Ditto to my above comments. If you don't like the system, change it. Yes,
- Rapists, robbers, etc. get too short a term, if they get any at all. Fix it
- with the ballot box, not a gun. Sure, if you are in immediate danger, blow
- the punk away, but if you do it with anger and hatred instead of adrenaline,
- you are probably wrong.
-
- Jim De Arras WA4ONG
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- [MODERATOR: Seems like we once again start towards discussion which
- should go to either talk.politics.guns, or perhaps misc.legal. How
- about it, folks? ]
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