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- From: tommy@boole.att.com (Tommy Reingold)
- Subject: Re: Automatic transmissions for bikes
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- Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:15:04 GMT
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- rkd@pt.com (Ray Downes) writes:
-
- $ I've ridden with a fair amount of what I'll call casual riders,
- $ especially during the pre-index days, who wouldn't or couldn't figure
- $ out how to use their multi-gear bike. Many riders even today, owning
- $ 14-24 speed bikes, don't know how to get the next higher gear ratio,
- $ and tend to struggle along with same maybe 3-4 gear ratios (with at
- $ least one of those being a "bad" gear). Worse yet, some manufacturers
- $ chose very poor gear combinations, some even with 3-4 "good" gear ratio
- $ duplicates!
-
- $ For "the masses", who have no interest in swapping gears, instead of a
- $ automatic transmission, how about a intellegent shift lever, i.e. one
- $ that decides what the next higher (or lower) gear-inch combo is and
- $ single or double shifts as required.
-
- $ I'm picturing a single lever, perhaps using a shift drum as in some
- $ motorcycle transmissions, where a single shift "up", does a single or
- $ double shift as required. The drum could be matched with predetermined
- $ chainring and freewheel/cassettes "sets" (manufacturers would love
- $ this), dealers could alter the "set" as required to meet the
- $ rider/terrain requirements. The drum would also be "programmed" to
- $ disallow bad gear combinations.
-
- $ This would retain almost all of the current drivetrain design and
- $ components, easing the burden on manufacturers and dealers.
-
- $ I'm all for sharing my current commute route with hundreds more bike
- $ commuters - don't think it's going to happen till bikes are much more
- $ casual-rider friendly. Relatively flat commute routes are one thing -
- $ the gear-naive might get by. Stick a few hills in the way, or a couple
- $ of windy days, and they'll find it either too time consuming and/or too
- $ hard and bag it.
-
- $ Just a thought, probably all wrong ...
-
- No, not wrong, it was done! I saw it about twelve years ago on a cheap
- department-store bike. You push the lever for a higher gear and pull
- for lower. It shifted either or both derailleurs as needed. There
- were two problems.
-
- One was that it was built with the cheapest parts. Of course, they
- could remedy this problem.
-
- The other is that you could only step through the gears one at a time.
- If you were in your lowest gear for a long, steep hill and wanted your
- highest gear, you would have to hit the lever nine times, waiting for
- each shift, some of them double shifts.
-
- Can someone think of a solution to the second problem above? If so, I
- think this is a viable idea worth reviving.
-
- --
- Tommy Reingold
- AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
- tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy
-