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- From: tom@afthree.as.arizona.edu (Thomas J. Trebisky)
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: Subwoofer power supply
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.235007.1002@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 23:50:07 GMT
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- Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
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- >Again a big hearty thanx to everyone who's helping me on this... ya
- >just can't learn this stuff in school it seems... (it's much too
- >practical)...
-
- :-)
-
- >Anyway, could someone tell me where in a power supply design the
- >amout of output current get determined? I understand the
- >transformer determines the voltage, diodes do the rectification and
- >capacitors/inductors will handle the filtering (leaving the
- >regulation for some lucky IC!) - but I don't see where the output
- >current is determined (V=IR somewhere I assume). Is this equation
- >true: Volts@primary supply x Amps@primary supply = Volts@other side
- >of the transformer x Amps@other side of transformer x efficiency of
- >transformer?
-
- See below.
-
- A power supply has a max current capability, but the actual
- amount delivered depends entirely on the load (unless the load
- tries to pull more than the supply can dish out). This is
- exactly why amps can deliver more power to 4 ohm speakers than
- to 8 ohms. Voltages being constant, twice as much current and
- thus power gets delivered to the 4 ohm speakers.
-
- >Also (I swear this has something to do w/audio!) can I send my
- >subwoofer amplifier more than 12V in a quest to give it 15amps or
- >so?
-
- If it is a unit designed to go in a car, this would probably
- be a very bad idea, but notice that a car battery actually
- delivers more than 12V (check yours with a voltmeter, it is
- more like 13.2V, but don't quote me on that.)
- Just stick with 12V.
-
- Hey, do you have a subwoofer amp that is designed for use
- in a car and expects 12V supply, or are you building your
- own, or just what are you dealing with anyway.
-
- If, as I assume, you have a subw amp designed for car use
- and thus expecting 12V with plenty of amps, and you wanna set
- it up for in-home use. You are in the market for a line-voltage
- to hefty 12V supply. You could shop around (I wonder if Radio shack
- has something.....) or build your own.
- Do you wanna build your own? (Not very hard really).
- Start with a big transformer (see below), hefty diodes, a big filter
- cap. And don't forget a line cord, fuse, and a box to put the
- whole mess in to avoid electrocuting visiting small children.
- It is fun, educational, and a potential source of lots of excitement!
- :-)
-
- >Finally, what is the current that comes out of a wall socket? I
- >see it's 110VAC @ 60Hz, fine, but what's the current?
-
- The load determines the current. If you plug in a 15W nite-light, it will
- pull about 0.1 Amp. If you plug in a 1000W toaster, it will pull 9 Amps
- or so. At about 15 Amps or so, a circuit breaker calls the whole show off.
-
- >But, does the amount of current not matter because the line current is
- >isolated from the output current by the transformer?
-
- Um, er ....
-
- >Is 110volts
- >pulsating 60x/sec. all that's important to the transformer/rest of
- >the power supply?
-
- There are little dinky transformers that convert Line voltage to 12VAC,
- and there are big mama transformers that do just the same thing. Each
- transformer has a VA rating that tells you how much power it can deliver.
- As near as I can tell (some EE major will cringe) VA is short for volts*amps
- and is some cryptic way to specify the Watts the transformer will deliver.
- Just remember Watts = Volts*Amps and Ohms Law and you can figure all this
- stuff out.
-
- When you exceed (or try to do so) the VA rating of a transformer
- several things happen, I am not sure in just what order, namely:
- The transformer overheats, the voltage drops because the field in the
- transformer begins to collapse, the fuse on the primary side of the
- transformer blows. Without an appropriate fuse, a variety of exciting,
- smelly, perhaps pyrotechnic things can take place. A good first cut for
- a fuse value is Transformer VA rating / 100 rounded up to the nearest amp
- (maybe add an amp or so for mama transformers, use fractional amp fuses for
- baby transformers). Fuses are your friends.
-
- >THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO HAS A MUCH BETTER GRASP OF THIS STUFF THAN ME!
-
- Have fun, don't kill yourself!
- --
- Tom Trebisky ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu
- "Did you know that 500,000 trees are consumed in America each week
- to produce our Sunday newspapers. Never mind recycling, why even
- take the paper?"
-