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- From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
- Subject: Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.192821.5210@tin.monsanto.com>
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:28:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec18.150244.4707@spcvxb.spc.edu>, killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:
- >
- (Incredibly long and boring diatribe deleted)
-
- I may be making assumptions, but I'll bet I'm speaking for the huge majority
- of DECUS members when I say that I don't give a rat's tail about what jobs
- the MC members hold, or whether they are out of touch, or whether Di and
- Charles will ever get back together.
-
- As a Decus member (true, I have a DCS account, but, gosh, I think I'm still
- _in touch_ as the saying goes) my major concern is _What does DECUS provide
- me that is of value_? I'll be honest, DECUS representation on standards
- committees is NOT one of the benefits of the organization. Oh, excuse me, I
- accidentally got onto the subject in the subject line....
-
- I don't believe DECUS can afford to send people all over North America and
- the world any more. DECUS, like DEC itself, got fat during the boom years,
- but now someone has to pay the piper. Let's look at what I as Joe Member get
- from DECUS:
-
- 1. As a normal member, I can attend LUG meetings and get information there.
- That's where the majority of information should be, since many of the
- people at a LUG meeting can never attend a symposium. From what I've
- seen, LUGs are left to fend for themselves, and many don't do well at it.
-
- 2. As a normal member, I can attend the national symposia. Trouble is,
- registration is now well over $600, and symposia are at high-dollar
- hotels in high-dollar cities. Please forego the arguments about accomodating
- a zillion attendees, negotiated rates, etc. It's a simple fact that a
- symposium now runs about $1600 to attend. This explains why attendance
- is going down. There is good information at a symposium, and the DEC
- presence has always made it worthwhile. But it's expensive.
-
- 3. Hmmm. Can't think of anything else I get out of DECUS. DECUServe, I guess.
- And I can buy cute novelty items with the DECUS logo.
-
- I really don't know what percs the Leadership gets, but from what I've
- read, it's lots of trips to lots of exotic places. It's lots of food and
- drink, etc. And it's a lot of pie-in-the-sky "planning" while the lower
- leadership does the dirty work. Even then, the leadership
- never actually goes to sessions at national symposia.
-
- I believe that DECUS needs to have regional symposia, complete with DEC
- representation, at a substantially reduced cost. Some way of facilitating
- information exchange without the enormous scale of a national symposium.
- The demo area is cute, but not essential. Sessions are important. Perhaps
- the national DECUS symposium folks and the LUG folks could get together and
- do such I thing...
-
- But from the bickering I've been reading in this newsgroup, I have my doubts!
-
-